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General DiscussionOk, I let my anger get the best of me. Sorry.

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Soyaaa_

    Lol. What u see is as an easy free farming lane doesn't mean they are doing nothing. I struggled with that too when I Watch pro games trying to understand how is it they have such an easy time. Of course it's the little things u don't see that makes the difference. Which I already mentioned, and u might miss from the way u analyse things. True they get free farm lanes a lot of times. But they also do a lot to enable that in the first few minutes of the game. Usually if u r bad at laning it is very noticeable. If u r good then ppl won't bother contesting u. It's unseen things that's hard to put a finger on.

    Best way to describe is if u as a less skilled player tried to contest a hypothetical much higher skilled player. As you might agree the better skilled player might probably win the lane easily and get a few kills on a lesser skilled player. U might decide to leave the lane because it is hopeless and u have nothing out of the lane. Hence when u see why they have free farm it's more of capable offlaner recognizing that there are no opportunities in that lane (ie opportunity cost of staying in lane) hence it is better to contest elsewhere. Of course u will see an easy lane watching a high mmr game. But if u put 2k players and contest the same carry, and as u claim, there is no fucking way they can get that many last hits, we'll look at what happens in the secret vs 2k games were almost always they try to contest the safe lane. They just die. And then it becomes free farm there after.

    And again i will say. It's not so much what they do that's special. But about how repeatable their performance is. Again I will bring up the point where u downplay ur own mistakes of missing last hits. Pros do it a lot a lot a lot less often than u might care to realize. The only evidence that May be contrary to this if u actually had data to show that pros make the same amount of mistakes as u, with the same frequency.

    Have u tried counting? And again don't give that bullshit of overemphasizing mistakes that they make. Realize that they make mistakes in games where everyone is much better at the game

    Giff me Wingman

      There is no way anyone can get farm against an aggro tri lane against any mmr. You are delusional as fuck.

      hypocrite detected

      tmo-captainshags

        If you guys want some more links that are unrelated to dota to maybe wake you up from your shelted mindset ill give you some links that might increase your awareness at least a little bit.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove
        https://www.rt.com/usa/343048-clinton-epstein-lolita-express/

        Anyways, You guys can call me crazy if you want. But here is a real story that really happened in my real life. I have a brother who works at a company. He has quite a few regular friends who he works with there. They play poker together and drink ever/everyother saturday and have all sorts of drunken fun. I am not much of a drinker myself. I can handle quit a bit of alcohol, and when I start to drink I can socialize with people and get them to say all sorts of things that normally I wouldn't talk about. Everyone knows a drunk person is more likely to tell the truth about something they normally hide......

        So, it started like this, I was like "I don't really like to drink anymore". Guy who is an Afghanistan war vet and all around crazy person was at the party. I knew he was a war vet, and an interesting person with a pretty outgoing personallity and likes attention/feeling like a badass. One of those types of people. So I gave in and drank with him after he challenged my manhood. We had a fifth between us of jack daniels. So, as we were getting more drunk I wanted to find out more about the war itself because I had my own questions about what the war was really like. I have always been into conspiracy theories. I have always been interested in "real" shit if that makes sense. So I asked him about his time in Iraq and if he had killed anyone and he said "yes". So, to get more information I had to kindof go along with him and be like "oh badass, how bad do dead bodies stink" "Not that bad until they start to rot". At this point stopped the converstation cause I was kindof doubtful. He told me to come over to the computer (my computer, I was living with my brother at the time) to watch a few videos he had that proved he was over there and showed him stacking up bodies. So at this point I really knew that he killed people for sure. I still showed no signs of queeziness or anything like that because I was actually really drunk. Anyways, I asked him why he killed those people and he just told me "because they are turban heads" and also said "because I love my country". I asked more about why we were over there in the first place and he said "for the oil, theres no other reason". I later asked if he thought it was wrong or right and he said "i dont know I just followed orders beause I love my country, I even killed little girls if they got to close to me". I didn't ask about the last one he just said it, anyways his girlfriend was there and it was really awkward because I could tell she wasn't proud of thsoe things but had to pretend like it was normal to not to cause any problems. It started getting a bit too awkward so he just started drinking until he was blackout drunk and then everyone went home and whatnot.

        Heres another story for you guys, when I was younger I got commited to the state as a juvenile and put into the correctional system aka juvy. They put you in basically a juvenile prison system where they evaluate you for a few months and keep you in lockdown. I ended up getting an easy program and got sent to a "boys home" if you wanna call it that. This place was the most fucked up place I had ever been and honestly lockdown juvy was easier to deal with emotionally because it was more hardcore criminals and gang members who basically were easier to be around. The boys home I was in, I was the only person who wasn't on meds. They told me I was "fronting" because I was so normal. Everyone else there had extreme social problems and anxiety/anger issues. I met kids who didn't have parents, kids whos parents just didnt want to deal with them because of how they behaved. I was in the house for 13-17 year olds, so the house I was in wasnt the worst. The place had a few different houses. Anyways, all I really learned from this place was that the world was really fucked up and unfair. I had kids want to leave with me and asked me to ask my parents to adopt them(obviously not an option). I met kids who's parents left them. Ones kids parents convinced him to hide in a shopping cart because they were homeless, and said "just hide here well be back" and never came back. One of the more normal ones, who I socialized with more often who was older is now one of those "anonymous" guys. This story doesn't really have a real path, but what I am trying to say is that I learned at ayoung age that life isnt fair at all and to question everything. I honestly think the medications where what caused most of these kids social problems. And when I say social problems I really mean it. We did this routine before every meal where EVERY kid had to sit still and be quiet for a few minutes becuase the house was always so loud or we didn't get to go eat. Needless to say, there were nights I would sit and wait for over two hours for everyone to shut up. Some kids would wait until the 5 minutes were almost up and then say something really retarded trying to be funny. Eventually, some people would get so mad that they blew up on eachother and then had to get dragged away by staff into the "safe room". I was the only one who never got taken to the safe room. In fact, I was called on a few occasions to the younger kids house which was more chaotic to help the staff deal with the situation over there, and the staff were more or less my friends at the house. I was looked at as a leader, even though all I really did to achieve this was not blow up or get angry over things. So, if you guys think I am someone with a short temper or get mad easily, please consider that I put up with this for over 6 months of my life as a 14 year old. BTW, the reason I got in trouble was for being a clepto. I stole over 20k worth of electronics and other stuff when I was 14. I got away with most of it but got ratted out by alot of people.

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        PLQ

          This is same thing like ppl talking shit about pro football players and judging their abilities while they drink beer in pub and watch them play...

          Giff me Wingman

            please consider that I put up with this for over 6 months of my life as a 14 year old.

            NOW EVERYTHING MAKES SENSE BOYS.

            Tsuna-Fro

              Diamlah kau babi. Tak pandai habis.

              Soyaaa_

                No one doubts that life is not fair. But the topic is whether rmm is unfair. While it is not completely fair, it is not rigged as you suggest. Your belief in conspiracy theory. Well some people are more predisposed to create meaning from madness. While theories are theories and some are difficult to disprove, hence I'll say that u can go ahead and believe whatever the hell u want, but still blind belief in a complicated conspiracy theory like the government is secret keeping its citizens down is just plain stupid. Or that valve is secretly keeping u down. Hell it might be true, but it's some dumb to believe that given the evidence around u that points to a simpler explanation. Always adopt the more obvious and simpler explanation if it exists. Don't always try to project some explanation to something u don't understand. That's not critical thinking

                tmo-captainshags

                  NOW EVERYTHING MAKES SENSE BOYS.

                  Does it? Or are you more confused? Skepticism and paranoia are your friends in this world. You just don't know it yet. You rather be naive than informed.

                  Soyaaa_

                    Skepticism is good. Paranoia isn't. It's irrational. Hence u are illogical and delusionsl

                    tmo-captainshags

                      "No one doubts that life is not fair. But the topic is whether rmm is unfair. While it is not completely fair, it is not rigged as you suggest. Your belief in conspiracy theory. Well some people are more predisposed to create meaning from madness. While theories are theories and some are difficult to disprove, hence I'll say that u can go ahead and believe whatever the hell u want, but still blind belief in a complicated conspiracy theory like the government is secret keeping its citizens down is just plain stupid. Or that valve is secretly keeping u down. Hell it might be true, but it's some dumb to believe that given the evidence around u that points to a simpler explanation. Always adopt the more obvious and simpler explanation if it exists. Don't always try to project some explanation to something u don't understand. That's not critical thinking"

                      But to me its more obvious that dota MM is rigged than not. You are trying to convince me that I am in fact terrible and only blame other people for my problems because "mad cause bad". When thats not the case. I am bad at alot of things I like doing but don't go on forums complaining about my lack of success in those things, like skateboarding. I fall down and break my wrists to easily to do anything hardcore. I can do kickflips and more or less basic stuff like 360 flips and flatground stuff, but when I fall it really hurts. There is no rigged skateboarding. This game seems blatantly rigged, as did online poker when I was playing it..... and what do you know a year or so after I quit all the major sites got shut down for stealing player money, and I provided links for that.

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                      Giff me Wingman

                        There is a difference between being informed and being delusional. Most people are informed, you are delusional.

                        tmo-captainshags

                          There is a difference between being informed and being delusional. Most people are informed, you are delusional.

                          Delusional of what? Please explain in more detail how you came to this conclusion, because I know I can last hit. I know how to tp into a teamfight thats about to happen. I know how to use my spells. I know how to play dota. What is it that I am missing? So far, the only concrete attempt was someone said that Euls is now a standard item for ember spirit because some dota player used it, and I already linked why that is not even true at all.

                          I even linked a video that CLQ casted of EG vs COL and in the video he points out obvious facts that support my opinion. I have talked about many pro replays and the mistakes that I have found in their games. People just brush it off as "pros make mistakes" like it was some little mistake, but in reality it was a huge lack of knowledge demonstrated by their play. Nobody can argue with my points because they are all valid. The only way for you to argue with me is recycling the same shit "we told you its because they do things better than you". I pick any random pro replay and explain why there is nothing special happening and why I understand everything that is happening in the game. Nobody points out any reason why any of these players are actually better, because you actually lack the abillity to differentiate. Looking at one of my games and seeing one micro mistake or missing some last hits means nothing, because that happens in everyones games. The truth is my teams are in fact terrible players, and most of the games I lose there is not really anything I could have done without being able to control multiple heroes.

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                          D the Superior
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                              Quit dota go play some new awesome video games.

                              Giff me Wingman

                                Explaining a delusional guy why he's delusional is a waste of time, because he is delusional.

                                I even linked a video that CLQ casted of EG vs COL and in the video he points out obvious facts that support my opinion

                                He uses a a lot of sarcasm, that only good players actually understand. You don't understand when he makes a good point and when he's sarcastic.

                                PLQ

                                  OK... OP make yourself 5 accounts, stack and play... HF

                                  conspiracy believers are like fundamentalistic relogion believers (doesn't matter what religion)... they only see their "truth" and nothing you tell them will make them change their minds.
                                  Either he actually believes in what he writes or he's damn good troll.

                                  This is pointless, while I agree that reading this is almost as funny as reading Phantom Riki's theorycrafting, it's same stuff all over again.

                                  edit: spelling error

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                                  Soyaaa_

                                    As I already mentioned. U can't really compare poker sites to Dota. No one disputes that some poker sites can be rigged. U cannot control the outcome. Hence it is very reasonable that ur theory is correct.

                                    In Dota. U have the ability to control the outcome as I had already mentioned. U can control it to feed and cause ur teammate to lose. U can be a team of al pros but if they refuse to leave fountain, they will lose. U can have the worse team given to u by valve but if u somehow destroy the enemy throne, u still win. Valve cannot deny u that win.

                                    The other examples u provide. Are all individualistic sports. Skateboarding, Starcraft, etc. u have not provided any examples of competitive team spots thus far which leads me to conclude that Dota is probably ur only experience with a team sport. And team dynamics is vastly different of course. Hence ur inability to properly analyse ur own situation when 4
                                    Other ppl affect your outcome.

                                    Why don't u focus on improving yourself? If u are good enough u will be able to find space to farm even if ur teammates don't give u a favorable lane. If u are bad, u can't find farm. There's no excuse.

                                    Giff me Wingman

                                      Oh, he is serious alright. There is no way someone would write that much text without being serious.

                                      And yes, it's exacly as you said. Delusional people are people who can't be saved, they won't ever learn. The only reason why i bother to reply on some of his shit is to give insight to people who are sitting on the fence.

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                                        Quit dota go play some new awesome video games.

                                        Thats what i wanna do. Dota to me is just a game like other ones. Only play it for killing time. I dont get money from it. i would defently delete this boring game when i upgrade my pc theres no point in keep playing dota 2 im not a multi player guy

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                                        tmo-captainshags

                                          My point isn't even that I am some superior player, it is that there is nothing really keeping me from having a 90% win ratio and being in VHS other than my teammates. Also that I think there are obvious plants in all games. The skill difference between players in all brackets is too big to be explainable. Even in 7k games, I watch pub games that are 6k+ all the time. What do I actually learn? Nothing, there is no real strategy in these games to be perfectly honest. People pick what they want and do what they want for the most part. Nobody actually knows how to really support and position themselves properly. Nobody trilanes properly. Supports are making stupid rotations and all around people are just running around aimlessly doing random ganks and people randomly get fed and randomly win the game. People see enemy pick timbersaw, dont pick two supports with stuns and zone him out lvl 1 like they are suppose to. People push lanes into enemy offlaners tower and give them free exp/levels for no reason. People don't tp support mid properly and tp in to late or for no reason. Heroes like BH/RIKI when roaming have the same effect as any 3k or 4k game with random ganks. Initiation to fights are the same across the board.

                                          tmo-captainshags

                                            Oh, he is serious alright. There is no way someone would write that much text without being serious.
                                            And yes, it's exacly as you said. Delusional people are people who can't be saved, they won't ever learn. The only reason why i bother to reply on some of his shit is to give insight to people who are sitting on the fence.

                                            But have you considered that you are the delusional one?
                                            Look at it this way, what do you gain by defending the MM system? What is in it for you? What are you holding onto that makes it so hard to have the slightest bit of doubt? What is keeping you from "being on the fence" yourself?

                                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgk8UdV7GQ0

                                            Giff me Wingman

                                              My point isn't even that I am some superior player, it is that there is nothing really keeping me from having a 90% win ratio and being in VHS other than my teammates

                                              Idk if you even read the shit you write.

                                              But have you considered that you are the delusional one?
                                              Look at it this way, what do you gain by defending the MM system? What is in it for you? What are you holding onto that makes it so hard to have the slightest bit of doubt? What is keeping you from "being on the fence" yourself?

                                              As a person who used to boost a lot and still do a bit casual boosting. I can say 100% that the mm system is not rigged, hence I know for a fact that I'm not the delusional one.

                                              You clearly don't understand how logic works, so i will tell you this:
                                              If you make a thread about how rigged the system is, then the first thing you need to find is EVIDENCE, if you cannot provide any clear evidence that the system is broken, then noone here will ever consider your theories worth thinking about.

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                                              4Skin

                                                Keep fighting your case, OP! Don't let all these delusional dunning-kreuger dotabuffers get the best of you. You are obviously as skilled as the best pro players and high mmr players, even if you can't win your 3k games (or whatever they are) or reach VHS on smurf accounts.

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                                                  captain shags, you are right.
                                                  No joke

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                                                  tmo-captainshags

                                                    Have I not "reached VHS" because I have reached this holy level of dota on several occasions.

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                                                    jeol

                                                      Lul

                                                      4Skin

                                                        congratulations, then your life must be complete

                                                        Giff me Wingman

                                                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgk8UdV7GQ0

                                                          I won't change my mind, because I don't have to. Cuz I'm an american. I won't change my mind on anything, regardless of the facts that are set out before me. I'm dug in and I'll never change.

                                                          Oh the gift that keeps on giving.

                                                          tmo-captainshags

                                                            "I won't change my mind, because I don't have to. Cuz I'm an american. I won't change my mind on anything, regardless of the facts that are set out before me. I'm dug in and I'll never change."

                                                            Anyone who has access to a computer is an american at heart.

                                                            Giff me Wingman

                                                              I'm as amercian as a drunk russian vodka dude dancing with a bear in a forest.

                                                              It's very simple, you're an awful player and you refuse to believe it because of your delusional mindset. All you do is making one claim after another without any shred of proof.

                                                              It all boils down to:
                                                              Matchmaking is broken because you think your team is shit and you're "superior".
                                                              7k players make mistakes, hence they are the same as 2k players.
                                                              You can't see the difference between 3k bracket and 7k bracket, hence 7k bracket must be the same as 3k bracket.
                                                              Valve has rigged this matchmaking.
                                                              Your proof is you watched some pro players play some pubs.

                                                              Idk about you guys, but this is flawless.

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                                                              tmo-captainshags

                                                                Consider this though, the people that program the game know that there are boosters in the game. My theory on the game being rigged is all for financial reasons. I feel like the game wouldn't be nearly as big as it is today without having well call them "dota heroes" aka all the top pro players. We all know this already, but lets just consider that if you were a programmer and you knew for a fact that there were boosters could'nt you use these players to your advantage in rigging the matchmaking. I already touched on this a little bit... how I think they use plants in games to make certain players do better than others. All it really takes statisticall is putting the odds slightly in a certain players favor, not too much but noticeable. They definately have programmers in valve with very strong understanding of statistics.

                                                                And, part of my theory on why they would specifically want to keep me in a really low bracket compared to where I should be is because if I had a 5.5k+ account my opinion would be more validated and I am sure they know I am set in my opinion. Kinda like how the wikileaks guy got put in prison for exposing big problems and lies.

                                                                Also, they could easily detect if someone is on a smurf and just put them in the same mmr, and if you sell those accounts they could detect that as well and just use that sold account as a plant in games.

                                                                Giff me Wingman

                                                                  And again, you make claim after claim not sharing any shred of evidence. I could start spouting nonsense how valve is controlled by aliens to take over the world but I don't do that because I have a functioning brain.

                                                                  There is no reason to make the mm system rigged. You claim that it's because of financial reasons, but you fail to make a point why that is.

                                                                  So you are implying that valve specifically chose you, out of millions of people. So your mom told em that you found out their secret or how did they find out?

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                                                                  CEO of lulu

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                                                                      "LMFAO OP THINKS HE IS GOOD CUZ HE HAD WINNING STREAK VS BRAND NEW PLAYERS THEN WHEN HE GOT PUT AGAINST SOME SEMI DECENT PLAYERS HE COULDNT CARRY N POSTS 10 PARAGRAPHS ON DOTABUFF CRYING LMFAO PRICELSSS"
                                                                      This LMAO

                                                                      tmo-captainshags

                                                                        "And again, you make claim after claim not sharing any shred of evidence. I could start spouting nonsense how valve is controlled by aliens to take over the world but I don't do that because I have a functioning brain.
                                                                        There is no reason to make the mm system rigged. You claim that it's because of financial reasons, but you fail to make a point why that is.
                                                                        So you are implying that valve specifically chose you, out of millions of people. So your mom told em that you found out their secret or how did they find out?"

                                                                        The reason being, without having a small select few players at the top who consistently stay there there is hardly a dream. I think the game would just die out if the top players changed constantly. Also, no consistent professional teams would exist because if there was 50000 people that were in the same tier as them then nobody would be motivated to play full time.

                                                                        Giff me Wingman

                                                                          The reason being, without having a small select few players at the top who consistently stay there there is hardly a dream. I think the game would just die out if the top players changed constantly. Also, no consistent professional teams would exist because if there was 50000 people that were in the same tier as them then nobody would be motivated to play full time.

                                                                          You gotta be shitting me. There is literally no game out there, where the top players change constantly. Is this shit the best you could come up with???? Are you even trying????

                                                                          PLQ

                                                                            YEA, Jaromir Jagr being in top tier of ice-hockey players for quarter of century "proves" that actually GOOD players stay on the top.

                                                                            dunce

                                                                              each time i read what OP says i feel dumber

                                                                              tmo-captainshags

                                                                                You gotta be shitting me. There is literally no game out there, where the top players change constantly. Is this shit the best you could come up with???? Are you even trying????

                                                                                lol so not true at all.

                                                                                In starcraft best players changed all the time. Some stayed famous for longer but there were like 50 different pro sc1 players when I watched it. Boxer, was famous for a long time but it had been long time since he was best. And the game just kinda died is the only reason there hasnt been like 5000 more. SC2 has like 400 pro players atm. And also, sc/sc2 is 1v1 game. I am sure counterstrike rigged also. In sc, there were basically ways you play the game that stayed constant until someone figure out how to counter it and then they got famous. In dota 2 its different.

                                                                                I also said its possible that the matchmaking system is jsut trash. I don't understand how else there would be so many bad players in 7k mmr.

                                                                                ywn

                                                                                  if i beat u in 1v1 will u stfu?

                                                                                  Giff me Wingman

                                                                                    deluded guy talking nonsense and making shit up TopKeK.

                                                                                    dunce

                                                                                      i would like to see ywn vs OP xd

                                                                                      Giff me Wingman

                                                                                        that shit would be gg in 2mins or so LuL

                                                                                        A. Snatcher

                                                                                          The mods need to shut this thread down and ban this troll.

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                                                                                            "Anyways, You guys can call me crazy if you want. But here is a real story that really happened in my real life. I have a brother who works at a company. He has quite a few regular friends who he works with there. They play poker together and drink ever/everyother saturday and have all sorts of drunken fun. I am not much of a drinker myself. I can handle quit a bit of alcohol, and when I start to drink I can socialize with people and get them to say all sorts of things that normally I wouldn't talk about. Everyone knows a drunk person is more likely to tell the truth about something they normally hide......
                                                                                            So, it started like this, I was like "I don't really like to drink anymore". Guy who is an Afghanistan war vet and all around crazy person was at the party. I knew he was a war vet, and an interesting person with a pretty outgoing personallity and likes attention/feeling like a badass. One of those types of people. So I gave in and drank with him after he challenged my manhood. We had a fifth between us of jack daniels. So, as we were getting more drunk I wanted to find out more about the war itself because I had my own questions about what the war was really like. I have always been into conspiracy theories. I have always been interested in "real" shit if that makes sense. So I asked him about his time in Iraq and if he had killed anyone and he said "yes". So, to get more information I had to kindof go along with him and be like "oh badass, how bad do dead bodies stink" "Not that bad until they start to rot". At this point stopped the converstation cause I was kindof doubtful. He told me to come over to the computer (my computer, I was living with my brother at the time) to watch a few videos he had that proved he was over there and showed him stacking up bodies. So at this point I really knew that he killed people for sure. I still showed no signs of queeziness or anything like that because I was actually really drunk. Anyways, I asked him why he killed those people and he just told me "because they are turban heads" and also said "because I love my country". I asked more about why we were over there in the first place and he said "for the oil, theres no other reason". I later asked if he thought it was wrong or right and he said "i dont know I just followed orders beause I love my country, I even killed little girls if they got to close to me". I didn't ask about the last one he just said it, anyways his girlfriend was there and it was really awkward because I could tell she wasn't proud of thsoe things but had to pretend like it was normal to not to cause any problems. It started getting a bit too awkward so he just started drinking until he was blackout drunk and then everyone went home and whatnot.
                                                                                            Heres another story for you guys, when I was younger I got commited to the state as a juvenile and put into the correctional system aka juvy. They put you in basically a juvenile prison system where they evaluate you for a few months and keep you in lockdown. I ended up getting an easy program and got sent to a "boys home" if you wanna call it that. This place was the most fucked up place I had ever been and honestly lockdown juvy was easier to deal with emotionally because it was more hardcore criminals and gang members who basically were easier to be around. The boys home I was in, I was the only person who wasn't on meds. They told me I was "fronting" because I was so normal. Everyone else there had extreme social problems and anxiety/anger issues. I met kids who didn't have parents, kids whos parents just didnt want to deal with them because of how they behaved. I was in the house for 13-17 year olds, so the house I was in wasnt the worst. The place had a few different houses. Anyways, all I really learned from this place was that the world was really fucked up and unfair. I had kids want to leave with me and asked me to ask my parents to adopt them(obviously not an option). I met kids who's parents left them. Ones kids parents convinced him to hide in a shopping cart because they were homeless, and said "just hide here well be back" and never came back. One of the more normal ones, who I socialized with more often who was older is now one of those "anonymous" guys. This story doesn't really have a real path, but what I am trying to say is that I learned at ayoung age that life isnt fair at all and to question everything. I honestly think the medications where what caused most of these kids social problems. And when I say social problems I really mean it. We did this routine before every meal where EVERY kid had to sit still and be quiet for a few minutes becuase the house was always so loud or we didn't get to go eat. Needless to say, there were nights I would sit and wait for over two hours for everyone to shut up. Some kids would wait until the 5 minutes were almost up and then say something really retarded trying to be funny. Eventually, some people would get so mad that they blew up on eachother and then had to get dragged away by staff into the "safe room". I was the only one who never got taken to the safe room. In fact, I was called on a few occasions to the younger kids house which was more chaotic to help the staff deal with the situation over there, and the staff were more or less my friends at the house. I was looked at as a leader, even though all I really did to achieve this was not blow up or get angry over things. So, if you guys think I am someone with a short temper or get mad easily, please consider that I put up with this for over 6 months of my life as a 14 year old. BTW, the reason I got in trouble was for being a clepto. I stole over 20k worth of electronics and other stuff when I was 14. I got away with most of it but got ratted out by alot of people."

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                                                                                            Asjo

                                                                                              captainshags, it sounds like you have been through a lot, and it has lead to you be disillusioned with other people. You say that you like conspiracy theories, but it sounds to me like you're constantly trying to identify all the threats in your surroundings. I probably cannot talk you out of living life like this, but I would still like to make an appeal:

                                                                                              You don't try to find harmony with other people, but you try to fight them and conquer whatever you encounter, be it a job, a social situation or a competitive online game. What would happen if you instead treated others as a source of happiness? Maybe, in Dota, you would try to win, not just for you, but your team. When instructing your teammates, you would meet them at their level and convince them to play with you, not just barking orders and thinking you will automatically lead your team. You will realize that if you actually want to be good at Dota and earn money from it, playing pointless ladder games will do very little for you, but forming and team and actually playing it competitively might get you where you want to go.

                                                                                              If you stop trusting other people for fear of what it might cost you, then think of what it costs you not to trust them. To never be fully comfortable. To always consider ulterior motives. Second guess. To never give yourself to the situation and just be happy about the way it is. To get happiness from the joy of others.

                                                                                              Either way, down to the Dota 2 stuff:

                                                                                              I have read everything in this thread, obviously. Many times, it pained me to see you completely ignore all the finer details. A few things that sprung to mind:

                                                                                              1) You say that people from higher brackets do not play better individually, and proceed to provide their last hits as an example. Once you go beyond the 4K bracket, it's likely that most people can make most last hits when they are not under a lot of pressure. Therefore, it makes sense that 4K players, who are only pressured by other 4K players, can last hit as much as 7K players being pressured by 7K players. Besides, the 7K players would be watching the map and considering various other things while last hitting which the 4K players would be unlikely to do.

                                                                                              Using last hits as a measure of skill misses the point completely. Maybe because of your background in poker, you like to deal in things that are very evident and easy to measure. Your last hits do not matter if you cannot execute a fight properly in cooperation with your teammate. As a good player, you can draw the enemies out of position, you can time your attack, make good calculated choices in situations where you will almost die, but get the kill. Your skill might show when you make good use of a force staff or don't automatically trigger your euls in a situation where most people would do it, but read into the situation and see why you shouldn't. Finer details. No way to simplify it.

                                                                                              2) You say you know everything about the game, yet in the three posts where you talk about what you know, you only mention very basic stuff that almost anyone who has played a lot would know. The things you mentioned do not make you a good player. Once again, you have to go into the finer details.

                                                                                              3) You use AdmiralBulldog's pubs as an example of pro players playing badly, which makes no sense. Once again, you are only seeing the surface. Bulldog is almost always playing around when he plays in pubs, so the quality of his play will vary greatly. Sometimes he feeds in insanely stupid ways and other times he makes amazing plays. What shines through in the end, if you watch enough, is that he is a player with extreme experience, who can always keep his cool and has really quick decision-making. He's good enough to outplay very good opponents while playing casually, but not good enough to avoid feeding when he's not really paying attention, making jokes and reading chat.

                                                                                              While Dota is definitely a competitive game, the competitiveness has its limits. Due to restraints on funding and infrastructure, not a lot of people can dedicate all their time on Dota and play in an organized environment, where they can easily focus on improving. As a result, anything below 7,5K+ average MMR will not look impressive to people like you and me, who analyze the game and care to watch what people are doing. That doesn't mean that people aren't good, but we have very few people in Dota who play well consistently and are clever and dedicated enough to always do the right thing. That's why you don't see a lot of change among the top teams - this game does not support a huge talent pool; at least not financially. Considering all the imperfect players at below 7,5K MMR, you have to remind yourself: you are one of them. If you feel you have a lot of things down about the game and you are confident in your own abilities, the first thing you need to work on is how you work with your teammates.

                                                                                              Karellen
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                                                                                                  TopKeK guys nice thread lulz for everyone

                                                                                                  bearcat0611

                                                                                                    Tmo just pls stahp making threads

                                                                                                    fear is the mind killer

                                                                                                      Asjo said all