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Karellen

    Governmental institutions such as school have always pushed onto me an egalitarian agenda stating that we all can be great at everything we do if we want to, so I don't get what's going on here. I deserve to be 5K+ MMR. I have followed a structured form of logic all of my life as recommended by governmentally funded institutions, this is how we do it in the REAL world; I fall in line and refuse to be a leader because I'm a good man, we must all conform to each other's wishes to keep up the peaceful society which we have created. Everyone I know tells me that I have extremely high emotional intelligence so clearly, I am an exceptionally intelligent individual as defined by society at large and I also happen to be a great worker, but somehow I'm a "3k shitter." Yeah, I'm sure that it's ME who is the problem, with my structured patterns of behavior which I do not break.

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    Feachairu

      did you already have miracle's level of mechanical skill? if not gOdiE

      im sure this is a copy pasta actually lol

      btw since there's alot like 14-16 years old that got into 8k im sure emotional intelligence means shit in dota where everyone is a monkey lol

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      kowareta

        play party and u can reach everything!

        Karellen

          Oh great, another enabler of abusive behavior as ordained by the Valve Corporation. How original you are, eh? First off, you need to drop the toxic masculinity and start respecting my thoughts and opinions. Secondly, I am NOT a monkey, and actually, emotional intelligence does say a lot about you. Psychologists have spent their entire life studying these things, and you? Can you make money with your "mechanical skill"? Ahahaha. Look at you.

          Cygnis

            Most of your recent games are in single draft. If you want to rank up you may want to focus on limiting your toxicity and ego.

            kowareta

              dude whats wrong with u :/
              feachairu is the nicest person in this forum, lol!

              Karellen

                I got sent to LP because my team does not want to conform and respect my thoughts and opinions. I try to explain to them how they are expressing their toxic masculinity and they don't give a fuck. Not my fault that I'm a good person, most people in society who went to governmentally funded institutions such as myself will tell you that I am right. One person's opinion means zilch compared to SOCIETY AT LARGE, my friend. Government itself backs my word up, and you?

                Sixe史吏

                  ^ What right-wingers think how leftists actually talk/think. Nice troll/parody.

                  Sand1

                    I can't get into legend. Halp me!

                    SLQ

                      ^Have you tried to connect your mouse to the pc?

                      the better spidey

                        It’s a copy pasta.

                        Karellen

                          They say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. It's original content, produced by none other than this guy right here. I would be truly shocked if you found it anywhere else than the Library of Babel, but I appreciate that you see it as such.

                          Tu tayta

                            Karellen

                              @Sixe史吏, most people are truly this illogical. People who are able to simply look behind the curtain and examine the foundation are very hard to find. They're too busy following the patterns of the people around them to recognize that they lack an independent self.

                              > Better buy expensive shoes cause the majority of society that conforms to this behavior does it so now I have to spend $60 to $70 on this normal looking shoe that has a Nike logo on it, I can't be caught wearing some bullshit from the thrift shop or payless that symbolizes that I'm good with my money, that's just ridiculous! This Nike shoe makes me a superior person because I spend all of my money on logos that stupid people respect so that stupid people are fooled into thinking that I have money, even though I spend all of it on Nike shoes, Jordans, Gucci shirts, and other stupid shit.

                              And people continue to act this way even though they're fucking 40 already. Kek

                              Feachairu

                                well i didnt try to call you monkey or something,what i mean is 15-16 year old retards who speak cyka blyat or whatever language in putangina still get 8k 9k,im sure emotional stuff doesnt matter

                                also if you're has miracle level of skill ofcourse you can get to 5k/6k/7k/8k easily

                                what i mean is,if your skill level isnt his level,just keep practicing and solo carry your games my frend

                                like maybe,5k is just 20% of miracle,while 3k is just 10% of miracle,1k is 3% of miracle so just grind your skillz until 20% of miracle and you'll get yer 5k

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                                  Plot twist: deep inside we are miracle

                                  Feachairu

                                    haha yeS

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                                    SuperMage

                                      number 1 rule for improving at Dota is: "If you lose it's always your fault!". If you don't take the responsibility of your actions in the game you can never improve!

                                      Cheap Laugh Guy

                                        MMR RISE UP

                                        Sixe史吏

                                          "like maybe,5k is just 20% of miracle,while 3k is just 10% of miracle,1k is 3% of miracle so just grind your skillz until 20% of miracle and you'll get yer 5k"

                                          It's a bit exaggerated, but your point is fair:
                                          1. DotA is a game of accumulating small advantages, comeback mechanics aside. Miracle doesn't need to be 5x better than you at mid, however that is quantified. Even if he is 5% better than you, all else being equal, he will win mid and with it, the game.
                                          2. All knowledge in every human field so far eventually encounters diminishing returns both at a systematic level because it costs more money in research and time to make the same level of breakthrough and on an individual level because every human grows older (and thus, dumber/slower/weaker) past their peak in the early to mid 20s. All of this is also true for "how to play DotA".
                                          3. At the pro level, the differences are accentuated because in any competitive human endeavor, the smallest of differences matter more the higher the rank. A 4k mid is likely 2x better than a 2k one, but a 9k mid is likely only 30% better than a 7k one, but in terms of DotA at the highest level, that 30% gap is enough to dominate in the same way as a 200% gap at earlier skill levels.

                                          "number 1 rule for improving at Dota is: "If you lose it's always your fault!". If you don't take the responsibility of your actions in the game you can never improve!"

                                          Although this is certainly better than making excuses for yourself, it also encourages an autist's mentality. There should be two components of any post-match analysis:
                                          1. What could I have done better?
                                          2. In that decisive moment where we lost, what should the team have done better?
                                          It's impossible to separate these two because if it's obvious your initiator cannot play correctly, then part of "playing better" is realizing that and changing your items and targeting to reflect that or changing your approach to teamfights. Part of personally "playing better" in the long-term is developing game sense, the ability to predict/control/manipulate the future actions of your teammates and enemies from their previous behavior. Of course, for pro teams, this is easy because they live together and scrim together constantly. For the players who are ranked top 100 on a server, it's also easy because they know most of their high MMR teammates from previous experience because the player pool is that small. However, these are relevant skills for pub players as well.

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                                          Karellen

                                            Yeah ok, I could have self-awareness or I could just complain until the system tends to me somehow as one person out of many... nobody has time for that shit. I'm an American, I like my stuff produced quickly. I go to McDonald's and give them money, and my food is done within seconds sometimes. Should be the same for Dota, I be a good person and throw money at the game to support it, so I deserve 5K+. At least 6K, but since I don't play much 5K is more realistic.

                                            Anyways, ciao. I'm gonna go express my high emotional intelligence elsewhere for now.

                                            Sixe史吏

                                              All good things come in this life because you or someone else worked for it. If you don't want to work for it, then you are implying someone else must do so for you.

                                              So...pay a booster, or get good.

                                              SirIronSights

                                                @sixe
                                                Someone put too much effort in his Dotabuff post.
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                                                Karellen

                                                  He spends so much time focusing on himself and the emotions that he feels that he doesn't read all of the fine details which others have provided for him to help him make an actual point. He further proved my above points about people, haha.

                                                  Wh0

                                                    even u has mechanical skills like pro players can't reach their ranks bcz dota is team game that provides u 5 great enemies and 4 donkeys for u

                                                    Karellen

                                                      ok

                                                      Sixe史吏

                                                        What is an "actual point"? I was clarifying because I've seen how others who say the same things as Fearichu or AM for ever as justification for neglecting key aspects of their playstyle (and personal development), supposedly by following that advice but in reality by remaining blind to their own personality defects. I wrote what I did to preempt such arguments in advance, and also to provide a slightly different perspective.

                                                        As for your point on egalitarianism vs. hierarchy, it helps to be balanced. DotA is like any other (e)sport, fairer than real life (because there is no accumulation either between games or across generations outside of personal experience unlike real world wealth) but not egalitarian (because there are natural differences in reflex speed, mentality, intelligence, attitude, etc. between genders, ages, and experience levels). As a result, like every other competitive sport, DotA creates a natural heirarchy. It helps to be scientific about such a thing, not pretend it doesn't exist or overexaggerate the prowess (or lack thereof) of the best (or worst) players. I don't see the point of raising the egalitarian argument against DotA, but I also don't see the point being a right-wing edge-lord reacting against those who use that argument either because all sports have an intrinsic element of non-reality which makes the real world arguments about wealth and "who deserves" rather moot.

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                                                        Karellen

                                                          It's on you, you reply to my sarcastic posts as if I was serious then claim you're offering a slightly different perspective, failing to make it clear subliminally or not where you yourself stand. Express yourself better.

                                                          Anyways, no fucking idea what you are trying to say. Fear and AM seem to be suggesting that independent playstyle matters and so am I. The egalitarian "argument" is extremist sarcasm showcasing how ridiculous that most people truly are in this world. If you pay attention you'll see that I'm pointing out the incompatible logic that people apply to the truly real world, not the concrete jungle which we as an egalitarian society have conjured in which you can't even let people know they are dumb little bitches, even though they deserve no respect for being a fucking retarded MLP soyboy. You've misinterpreted or misread, maybe even skipped something or likely a lot of something that I've posted.

                                                          SirIronSights

                                                            ^he's sarcastic.
                                                            Maybe stoopid as well?, (new thread?)
                                                            @sixe is passionate.
                                                            Maybe stoopid as well?, (new thread?)
                                                            Point is my man, sarcasm is fun and all.
                                                            But it ain't sarcasm if people don't realise it is.
                                                            So I would like you to come to the opezdal school of how to Be a cuck, delete higher mmr players completely and being in the highest iQ bracket ever.
                                                            You're invited.
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                                                            dscbl

                                                              “I am American i give money 2 MCD for quick food” wooow shit

                                                              dscbl

                                                                EMOTIONAL INTEL INSIDE

                                                                Karellen

                                                                  @SirIronSight, I had a feeling he may be trolling but if he is then he needs to step up his game. There's nothing clever about acting like an idiot who can't read lmao.

                                                                  Anyways what

                                                                  Feachairu

                                                                    "Even if he is 5% better than you, all else being equal, he will win mid and with it, the game. "
                                                                    this isn't really true myfriend,i beat alot of 6ks-6,5ks mid because this game is a bit luck based honestly and you can cheese some stuff
                                                                    not saying i'm 6k,but if its about winning mid you need to be at least probably like 20% better laning i guess? idk maybe 10% will help but 5% wont really make a difference since you probably only get like 5% networth better than me or something (well you maybe correct on winning the game thou)

                                                                    in your 2nd point,that 'autist mentality' is so much better rather than you just gave up imo

                                                                    Feachairu

                                                                      nobody really cares about your independent playstyle if it doesnt work lol,for example you can play rush midas and buy skadi afterwards on slark every game and if that makes you stuck in 3k it just mean your playstyle doesnt fucking work,a normal high intelligent person will stop using your own playstyle if it doesnt work and do something else instead

                                                                      like what einstein said or whichever stupid wiseman is it,if you keep doin same thing and you expect a different result,you are crazy

                                                                      also dude i feel like you are trolling,you are just mixing words and stuff lol " If you pay attention you'll see that I'm pointing out the incompatible logic that people apply to the truly real world" what the fuck are you even pointing on the last few posts

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                                                                      Karellen

                                                                        also dude i feel like you are trolling,you are just mixing words and stuff lol " If you pay attention you'll see that I'm pointing out the incompatible logic that people apply to the truly real world" what the fuck are you even pointing on the last few posts

                                                                        Egalitarianistic logic has no place in dota, or in nature. The universe doesn't care about you. Life isn't fair. Sure, we can use it in our society where we go into "work mode" or whatever but other than that you lack a real self. I started off "trolling" in the first few posts trailing from OP if you could call it that, by being very obviously extremist to the point where it's obvious sarcasm.

                                                                        Feachairu

                                                                          wat the heck

                                                                          SirIronSights

                                                                            @feachairu
                                                                            You got gnomed.
                                                                            Surrender your virginity to @capt.saver
                                                                            Next time, use ya brains.
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                                                                            @capt.saver
                                                                            Maybe he's an idiot that can't read.
                                                                            If that's the case, you owe him apology.
                                                                            That's 60% the case.
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                                                                              Khéops-

                                                                                That JoJo stub is the best ever.

                                                                                A̶𝖘𝖍𝖊𝖘 (My Chat is

                                                                                  @Op: Nice essays, don't know what's your deal man. Are you like practising for some weird essay competition?

                                                                                  poggies

                                                                                    Vhs is top 1% don’t cry if u can’t get it. it’s for pros only

                                                                                    ubica

                                                                                      this has got to be satire

                                                                                      severe

                                                                                        lmaoooo

                                                                                        Karellen

                                                                                          @Naxe, I don't recall writing more than one paragraph. Not sure what you're getting at?

                                                                                          Story Time

                                                                                            Governmental institutions such as school have always pushed onto me an egalitarian agenda stating that we all can be great at everything we do if we want to

                                                                                            update your assumption, they lied! You can reach only a margin of your imagination

                                                                                            Karellen

                                                                                              wat the heck

                                                                                              Essentially, I'm stating that egalitarianism is not the foundation which underlies the logic of our universe. Egalitarianism and logic clash against eachother, which is why the people at the top don't give a shit about your equality, only logical decisions; one has to work with a foundation of evil to build their empire of eventual positivity due to the fact that if you fail to be enough of a leader to accept this logical truth, many others will assume the position as they are biologically hardwired to use Machiavellian tactics and feel no empathy, or because they're simply intelligent enough to do what it takes. In simple terms, you can think of the "evil" people at the top as variable to logic, if they didn't do it then someone else would.

                                                                                              Most people aren't evil because they need to be, or because they are sadistic, but because it is the logical choice to make. Leaders would prefer to keep power to themselves, because that's intelligent. The people at the top are not God, so they can't somehow expose the faults of our system, they can only abuse it. Even if they attempted to change the world in such a foundational way, there are other conflicting powers who will make it an illogical decision. There's a functional relationship going on here, unfortunately you can't control what the other factors choose to do and be. "He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know." -Lao Tzu

                                                                                              This applies to dota 2 because it is a foundational logic which underlies pretty much everything in our universe, if you don't understand I will explain further later. Currently studying for an exam.

                                                                                              Feachairu

                                                                                                okay seriously i have no idea what the hell are you talking about or what is even your point,can you use effective words or just simple vocabulary lol

                                                                                                Karellen

                                                                                                  update your assumption, they lied! You can reach only a margin of your imagination

                                                                                                  It's easy to be a millionaire to multimillionaire, if you are ok with not following everyone's pattern and being a leader. You may not be able to sleep 8 hours a day, maybe 4 - 6, and you must spend your time on things that society paints as "boring." We are able to achieve a lot, actually. Unfortunately, the majority of our society is not created to think for themselves and be a leader. Instead, they are made to accept their situation, as if they don't have the power to change themselves and their reality and influence the world.

                                                                                                  People are taught that people with achievements are hyperdimensional beings with special powers. Nope. Maybe 0.2% of people are that intelligent, but for the most part, people are too afraid to kill their identity of the person who keeps doing dumb shit to further justify that they love being the piece of garbage which they are. Kek.

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                                                                                                    I had the displeasure of reading all of this thread.

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