If he has gone for Dagon then he is hosed due to your high strength gain. So he will go for veil, aghs
his ghost shroud is a semi-reliable escape when in teamfights, but would hose him if you catch him out alone. To counter him in teamfights you would go diffusal. Out of teamfights you would go silver edge to disable his passive regen from last hits as well as being able to get the jump on him with the double. Then you would go bloodthorn in order to nearly instagib him. In and out of teamfights.
So diffusal -> Silveredge ->Bloodthorn
Meepo:
Hard matchup due to flux never working vs a good meepo. All he has to do is poof a clone over in order to disable it. You also can't depend on spark wraith to hit the meepo you are focusing. Which leaves right clicks and magnetic field. If the meepo gets the jump on you with blink, you are dead. So you probably will need to go for bkb to prevent him from permarooting you. You could also go for a tankier item like skadi for armor and then due to the fact meepo has no stun you could just tp out as you have travels at that point. butterfly would also help. Upgrading to mjollnir would also punish the meepo immensely due to having one for you and one for someone getting jumped on. So I would say mjollnir -> Skadi -> Butterfly. Unless I am greatly underestimating the amount of damage a meepo can do.
Storm Spirit:
He will try and jump you. You need fast reactions in order to win as you need to get the double out to help before you locks you down. if he goes bkb then you might need to too. As magnetic field is pretty useless vs him. BKB prevents him from jumping you. and popping it would make him run away, meaning you wasted a bkb charge. The best way to deal with him is orchid/bloodthorn. As using that on him forces him to pop bkb. He can promptly hose you after he does that as he is immune to both maelstrom, all your spells, and your silence. So you can then pop your own if you have it(bad idea to get). Sheepstick however, lets you disable him completely, So you could go Sheep -> bloodthorn -> skadi. Which would make sure that he isn't going anywhere. I am not entirely sure about the DPS of the build though. It might be too low to be useful against the rest of the enemy team.
Just started playing arc warden a few days ago. Failed the first 2 games badly. But then had a 3rd game were I went 18/6.
For some reason even though I could do your challenges I still couldn't last hit in lane for some reason safelane. So trying mid as for some reason I do a lot better there with lasthitting. :|
have u noticed the trend where as soon as something like "coaching" or "free help" is included in the title, the thread gets immediately derailed and shat up by cookie and his 9gag army
Meepo counters Arc Warden like no other hero, so Cockie how you want to build your hero then ? 3 items just not to die ? Bkb pike linken ? I completely disagree of what you're trying to say. You will die only if you stay in front.
True is that blink poff hex combo rekt Arc. So Imo you can only stay in front with your ultimate and no item will help you then. Only that would make my game more difficult if I were playin meepo.
Tbh I dont know what are you trying to show us here ? U need bkb, pike + dps and wait for meepo to initiate. No linken will help you since meepo can go diffusal hex and break linken for cheap.
You;re not a pro coach but surely behaving like one - bombing every thread about some free coaching like people mentioned in previous posts and I agree with that. Even if they are not so enlightened as you are, at least they try to help.
"Meepo counters Arc Warden like no other hero, so Cockie how you want to build your hero then ? 3 items just not to die ? Bkb pike linken ? I completely disagree of what you're trying to say. You will die only if you stay in front."
That's why I said forget about trying to counter meepo and just play your game, standard arc build whatever that is.
Truth is none of these matchups are great for arc, though you can probably just burst to death a necro before he does much to you, so to beat them I'd want to stomp my lane, farm faster and push harder than they do. Which shouldn't be that hard vs storm and necro, meepo idk depends on rest of team.
what do you do if you destroyed enemy middle tower by minute 7-12? put wards on enemy jungle or shrine?
if you're a fighting mid hero (ex:pugna,mk,puck,pl or any hero that can gank/push without ult/small cd) do you farm and keep punishing till their mid second tower unless enemy supports are missing? or leave the lane and push/fight other lanes? (go back or tell your friends to go to your lane ofcourse if there's a wave coming to your mid tower)
also,what should you do when you have destroyed 3 enemy t1 tower on minute 14-15 and can't roshan at all(bad heroes) is it only smoke and gank and get an objective if gank is sucessful? or try to push t2 as 5?
how odes cookie have the gut to call anyone subhuman when youre literally the only degenerate on this forum who consistently tries to prove superior to low skill ppl by giving advice every fuckign average 5k player is able to give. but its okay cause oOh i sPenD x hoUrS wAtChigng reLpay xDD i UnderStand Evryhthing xD proS XD do fuck off cu.nt
the stuff u post is cancer to the eye ur 'good samaritan' attitude of trying to help poeple by making some fucking useless farming patterns some retarded lh challenge (thats gotten every other moron on this forum thinking its any useful) and some xD BeHAVIOUR ExPeriMEnt xD is the most triggering shit ive seen in a long time. if you were a quarter as bright as u think u are u would realise that this garbage doesnt help anyone. every person ive known to be 5k+ has learned the game on their own and got tehre by palying the fucking game not by listening to some co.cksucker whos got 6k by playing 1 hero and then turned off mmr
@cookie
1) how do i tell a girl that i love her ?
2) is masturbating bad for health ?
3) please explain what was that bigbang experiment
4)how you'd like to die ?
5)why do u hate 3k ?
I like how Cookie pretends that there are different items that Arc Warden builds for different cases, and then when he play Arc, that happens https://www.dotabuff.com/players/362105790/matches?hero=arc-warden basically same item progression with a rare linken sphere
"I like how Cookie pretends that there are different items that Arc Warden builds for different cases, and then when he play Arc, that happens https://www.dotabuff.com/players/362105790/matches?hero=arc-warden basically same item progression with a rare linken sphere"
That's my entire point, he posted it saying he wants to see 3k thought process but that's a useless exercise. Of course any item we build can be countered by the enemy team, it really comes down to execution, not item builds.
He plays it off like he's some guru of dota thought processes but he's not. There's no magic pill item build, it will be game specific and you will want to see what enemy is building and react or just execute your hero and strat better.
@cookie:
Necrophos:
If he has gone for Dagon then he is hosed due to your high strength gain. So he will go for veil, aghs
his ghost shroud is a semi-reliable escape when in teamfights, but would hose him if you catch him out alone. To counter him in teamfights you would go diffusal. Out of teamfights you would go silver edge to disable his passive regen from last hits as well as being able to get the jump on him with the double. Then you would go bloodthorn in order to nearly instagib him. In and out of teamfights.
So diffusal -> Silveredge ->Bloodthorn
Meepo:
Hard matchup due to flux never working vs a good meepo. All he has to do is poof a clone over in order to disable it. You also can't depend on spark wraith to hit the meepo you are focusing. Which leaves right clicks and magnetic field. If the meepo gets the jump on you with blink, you are dead. So you probably will need to go for bkb to prevent him from permarooting you. You could also go for a tankier item like skadi for armor and then due to the fact meepo has no stun you could just tp out as you have travels at that point. butterfly would also help. Upgrading to mjollnir would also punish the meepo immensely due to having one for you and one for someone getting jumped on. So I would say mjollnir -> Skadi -> Butterfly. Unless I am greatly underestimating the amount of damage a meepo can do.
Storm Spirit:
He will try and jump you. You need fast reactions in order to win as you need to get the double out to help before you locks you down. if he goes bkb then you might need to too. As magnetic field is pretty useless vs him. BKB prevents him from jumping you. and popping it would make him run away, meaning you wasted a bkb charge. The best way to deal with him is orchid/bloodthorn. As using that on him forces him to pop bkb. He can promptly hose you after he does that as he is immune to both maelstrom, all your spells, and your silence. So you can then pop your own if you have it(bad idea to get). Sheepstick however, lets you disable him completely, So you could go Sheep -> bloodthorn -> skadi. Which would make sure that he isn't going anywhere. I am not entirely sure about the DPS of the build though. It might be too low to be useful against the rest of the enemy team.
Just started playing arc warden a few days ago. Failed the first 2 games badly. But then had a 3rd game were I went 18/6.
For some reason even though I could do your challenges I still couldn't last hit in lane for some reason safelane. So trying mid as for some reason I do a lot better there with lasthitting. :|
have u noticed the trend where as soon as something like "coaching" or "free help" is included in the title, the thread gets immediately derailed and shat up by cookie and his 9gag army
cuz cookie tries to convince people that he is decent at something, which.... he isn't LUL
9gag army?
Meepo counters Arc Warden like no other hero, so Cockie how you want to build your hero then ? 3 items just not to die ? Bkb pike linken ? I completely disagree of what you're trying to say. You will die only if you stay in front.
True is that blink poff hex combo rekt Arc. So Imo you can only stay in front with your ultimate and no item will help you then. Only that would make my game more difficult if I were playin meepo.
Tbh I dont know what are you trying to show us here ? U need bkb, pike + dps and wait for meepo to initiate. No linken will help you since meepo can go diffusal hex and break linken for cheap.
You;re not a pro coach but surely behaving like one - bombing every thread about some free coaching like people mentioned in previous posts and I agree with that. Even if they are not so enlightened as you are, at least they try to help.
Why are the only threads that last more than 2 pages, the completely awful ones?
woah bosnian memes
lul ... Imo everyone should have a link to his original facebook profile to actually comment on anything so we can see how he look like irl.
"Meepo counters Arc Warden like no other hero, so Cockie how you want to build your hero then ? 3 items just not to die ? Bkb pike linken ? I completely disagree of what you're trying to say. You will die only if you stay in front."
That's why I said forget about trying to counter meepo and just play your game, standard arc build whatever that is.
Truth is none of these matchups are great for arc, though you can probably just burst to death a necro before he does much to you, so to beat them I'd want to stomp my lane, farm faster and push harder than they do. Which shouldn't be that hard vs storm and necro, meepo idk depends on rest of team.
what do you do if you destroyed enemy middle tower by minute 7-12? put wards on enemy jungle or shrine?
if you're a fighting mid hero (ex:pugna,mk,puck,pl or any hero that can gank/push without ult/small cd) do you farm and keep punishing till their mid second tower unless enemy supports are missing? or leave the lane and push/fight other lanes? (go back or tell your friends to go to your lane ofcourse if there's a wave coming to your mid tower)
also,what should you do when you have destroyed 3 enemy t1 tower on minute 14-15 and can't roshan at all(bad heroes) is it only smoke and gank and get an objective if gank is sucessful? or try to push t2 as 5?
Wyd as melee safelane core against smart mk(literally hitting u every time u near him, got ganked if Going jungle)
P.s answer must be not asking help from teammates
Well since op got roasted by bosnian 6k pls if u know the answer reply
how odes cookie have the gut to call anyone subhuman when youre literally the only degenerate on this forum who consistently tries to prove superior to low skill ppl by giving advice every fuckign average 5k player is able to give. but its okay cause oOh i sPenD x hoUrS wAtChigng reLpay xDD i UnderStand Evryhthing xD proS XD do fuck off cu.nt
the stuff u post is cancer to the eye ur 'good samaritan' attitude of trying to help poeple by making some fucking useless farming patterns some retarded lh challenge (thats gotten every other moron on this forum thinking its any useful) and some xD BeHAVIOUR ExPeriMEnt xD is the most triggering shit ive seen in a long time. if you were a quarter as bright as u think u are u would realise that this garbage doesnt help anyone. every person ive known to be 5k+ has learned the game on their own and got tehre by palying the fucking game not by listening to some co.cksucker whos got 6k by playing 1 hero and then turned off mmr
@cookie
1) how do i tell a girl that i love her ?
2) is masturbating bad for health ?
3) please explain what was that bigbang experiment
4)how you'd like to die ?
5)why do u hate 3k ?
As usual the bosnian guy having fame
I like how Cookie pretends that there are different items that Arc Warden builds for different cases, and then when he play Arc, that happens https://www.dotabuff.com/players/362105790/matches?hero=arc-warden basically same item progression with a rare linken sphere
"I like how Cookie pretends that there are different items that Arc Warden builds for different cases, and then when he play Arc, that happens https://www.dotabuff.com/players/362105790/matches?hero=arc-warden basically same item progression with a rare linken sphere"
That's my entire point, he posted it saying he wants to see 3k thought process but that's a useless exercise. Of course any item we build can be countered by the enemy team, it really comes down to execution, not item builds.
He plays it off like he's some guru of dota thought processes but he's not. There's no magic pill item build, it will be game specific and you will want to see what enemy is building and react or just execute your hero and strat better.