General Discussion

General Discussionmidas needs nerfs right about fucking now

midas needs nerfs right about fucking now in General Discussion
i follow Jesus.

    its literally viable on any hero except clone-based, luna and tinker (i would not be surprised if suddenly it starts being useful on tinker too)
    BUT NOT ONLY VIABLE, ITS THE BEST ECONOMY-WISE farming item
    "oh it doesnt transition well into later stages" WELL WHAT A SURPRISE IT COSTS 2000G
    "midas will delay your build" welp apparently increasing the bounty by 30 fucking gold made the item INSANELY worth it for reasons that i can't possibly identify. the thing is, IT WORKS so DAMN WELL. i'm pretty sure i would have won my last spectre game if i had a 10 minutes midas instead of an 18 minutes radiance.
    not only that: with a midas, the "lets go lategame i want to play dota for 3 hours!" item, deathballing strats are not only more viable but also have a way better 'backup plan' in case you dont get megas at the 19 minute mark EVEN THO it COUNTER ITSELF WITH COMEBACK GOLD MECHANICS (the higher your networth the more you lose, thanks icefraud Kappa)

    i think the most amazing fact of the midas patch is that it brought back qop when everyone thought the hero was completely trash and couldnt win games in any way

    the tip of the icecream is that when the patch came out people claimed "o shit they finnaly nerfed midas thanks gaben i'll never see invoker again in my pubs for a long time" well thats where you're wrong pleb its even more viable now

    Shou

      dude the only viable qop I know is sumails veil qop

      i follow Jesus.

        veil is the suboptimal farming item where u actually have a team behind your back that deals a moderate amount of magic damage

        i'm pretty sure he doesnt use the veil to use scream on teamfights, he waits patiently to maximize it with his team
        its insanely good with a crystal on your side and worth
        why buy a midas to fam creeps when u can buy a veil so ur team farm heroes? work smart not hard

        doc joferlyn simp

          its literally viable on any hero except clone-based, luna and tinker (i would not be surprised if suddenly it starts being useful on tinker too)
          BUT NOT ONLY VIABLE, ITS THE BEST ECONOMY-WISE farming item
          "oh it doesnt transition well into later stages" WELL WHAT A SURPRISE IT COSTS 275G
          "oov will delay your build" welp apparently increasing the movement speed slow by 12% and increasing the dot by 2 made the item INSANELY worth it for reasons that i can't possibly identify. the thing is, IT WORKS so DAMN WELL. i'm pretty sure i would have won my last pudge game if i had a 0 minute oov instead of an 10 minutes soul ring.
          not only that: with an oov, the "lets go lategame i want to play dota for 3 hours!" item, deathballing strats are not only more viable but also have a way better 'backup plan' in case you dont get megas at the 19 minute mark EVEN THO it COUNTER ITSELF WITH COMEBACK GOLD MECHANICS (the higher your networth the more you lose, thanks icefraud Kappa)

          i think the most amazing fact of the oov patch is that it brought back sb when everyone thought the hero was completely trash and couldnt win games in any way

          the tip of the icecream is that when the patch came out people claimed "o shit they finnaly nerfed boots thanks gaben i'll never see sb again in my pubs for a long time" well thats where you're wrong pleb its even more viable now

          Shou

            sumail goes veil on qop regardless of team comp, u haven't even seen him do it.
            obv u don't use veil to farm u numbskull u use it to fight, which u don't use midas for.

            i follow Jesus.

              you USE veil to farm its the only thing it works for
              it gives regen and amps damage, its literally the definition of farming item
              is sumail the only qop picker in the world? and he fucking does it for the team man i'm sure
              midas is way better, hes a storm player he has to be greedy right no way he would simply skip a midas

              Jacked

                Using veil to farm? That's new to me

                Jacked

                  Not that it isn't possible.

                  Sand1

                    its literally the definition of farming item

                    Lel

                    Arima

                      VEIL TO FARM? HAHAHAHAHA you spam scream on creeps? Thats a fucking waste of mana

                      Arima

                        VEIL TO FARM? HAHAHAHAHA you spam scream on creeps? Thats a fucking waste of mana

                        Shou

                          u do scream on creeps u just don't need veil to do it.
                          veil can be used to make creeps die faster but ur braindead if u think its only a farming item.
                          and how can u be sure sumail does it for the team, u have ur own vision of dota and are desperately trying to validate it when it is just not true.

                          Shou

                            sumail doesn't even play that much storm rn