General Discussion

General Discussionare sf razes better, worse, or still irrelevant?

are sf razes better, worse, or still irrelevant? in General Discussion
oof

    i guess 1350 magic damage with spell amp talents can be good if your target has a ghost scepter?

    or is it only like for magnus /enigma strat and slark shadow dance counter?

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    Vertoxity

      It's still better to take the range imo.

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        ur rightclicks are doing more dmg anyway, why would u take razes? XD

        BenaoLifedancer

          Arcane ring/diamond or something shadow fiend new meta.

          oof

            AoE damage? Ghost? Non-targetable units?

            in example im pretty sure if your team lands a 3+ person disable, triple raze would do more if you can hit all targets.

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            casual gamer

              doubt its useful outside of very niche scenarios maybe against tb or morph idk

              Shou

                Maybe against megas?

                Boss Lotte

                  I think the spell amp talent and item is for the requiem, not the raze skill.

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                  oof

                    well spell amp talent is useful for both, and sf takes it because he doesnt buy any spell amplification items.

                    Boss Lotte

                      I think I saw some pro player casting ethereal on enemy and casting requiem at the same time.

                      oof

                        didnt think of eblade as an item of the sort you mentioned. yeah its definitely possible and you can do it with razes too. even better.\

                        so if you have elder titan in team, veil and eblade a target your 3 razes hit for ~1800 :thinking:

                        (but yeah it must still be quite shit)

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                        Boss Lotte

                          saw it on youtube I believe, I even see one bringing dagon with ethereal. Cast ethereal on enemy, dagon then raze. Pretty much sure kill. Also ethereal is useful for escape yet still depends on what the enemy picks. Sooooo, I think it is situational only or just for fun maybe.

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                          Cнейкмонгер

                            i saw waga take the raze talent on his sf game, even though he didnt have any wombo-combo nor the enemy had slark or tbh/morph. is it because of the wave clear?

                            BenaoLifedancer

                              Aether lens scepter sf new meta. Follow it with eblade and maelstrom and ofc some kind of lifesteal or heal (meka boots perhaps). FInish it with some radiance dagon necro stuff :o!!

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                              dunce

                                VEIL EBLJAT 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 DAMAAAZ