General DiscussionEmber ths patch can stomp mid

thats veil things seems funny, now hes like a nuker initiator

Funny ? It's genius. It's the only build I'd recommend.

ember still have some issues thou : easily get shut down in laning phase, he kinda too weak in laning

new build give him cover up for some his troubles thou :
- Squishy (Veil build bonus armor stats , Octarine)
- Now more fucking mobility and utility (Cooldown reduction , 5 sec root chains , Blink dagger 7 - 8 cd with octarine and talent tree)
- Magic damage fall off very quick (covered with veil , talent tree , and octarine)
- Now can online pretty quick and still relevant through early to late game (Not just squishy split push travel BF , one stun = dead)

Pretty much he feel powerfull now because his magic damage now more relevant to mid game and actually scaling now (Spam chains for days)

kinda sucks because im awful at mid and thats basically where his role has shifted

ember was and is dogshit

Ember is a fucking late game boss. The only way to win him is to shut him down early before he gets travels fury manta and becomes practically unkillable.

^ lmaooo

did someone say manta

hes stronger now, but nothing more

Whoever is mocking ember probably has never met a monster one in his pubs, he is absolutely devastating and the only one who can carry divines safely. Manta is played on ember to dodge the malevos and escape when he is countered. A lot of people when they have the gold lead have on them manta, linkens, dagger, fury, travels, daedalus and rat even better than magina, furion etc. I have a friend who is 5k and mains the hero and he is an absolute cancer that i hope to never meet in my pubs. Cause even in that game with bs that i stomped i almost lost it and i did it simply because we had both black hole and ravage in team. He is a hero that i hate to play with and against in my team. The guy who said lmao with 6kda and 66% winrate in 200 games as ember is scary as fuck. I fucking hate rat and split push i swear. Good luck trying to defend your racks, lol.

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2875580668
smoke memes everyday

^Wtf dude, mad respect for your dagon ember.

I Thought the veil, octarine core build was just a joke. Playing him with Boots of travel, battlefury, daedalus, linken, skady and rapier is the ideal build. https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2866807603

i broke my items yesterday when i saw that my ember had bots and a claymore

if u arent gonna go veil dont pick this hero

oykman its the memes i smoke fam xd

"The only one who can carry divines safely"
WEAVER ? ? ? ? ?
Manta is good on manfighting ember but that shit isn't even a thing now
@powahouse
One game is not good enough for sample size
Plus anything works in normal skill, you can even first pick void and go MoM BF and still win your games if you're good enough

Also yea ember is quite strong right now, but not OP or first pick material
His talents are pretty much screaming nuker ember, not to mention the remnant buffs

I think u go veil Dagon. It's legit.

The new build is legit guys

@jacked
Zero trademark ayy

Actually sumail started this veil ember nonsense , i just copied it and added dagon and radiance for ultra dank memes

sumail didnt start it, people were doing it since the patch dropped

Why not radi aether veil eblade?
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Talent tree 15%+ veil 25%+ eb 45%= 85% spell amplification with -2 sec chains 3x300 remnant dmg dagon5=800 guard+rad burn and to top it all -15% cd on everything so yea totally legit

Fun fact if u get octa ur chains basically goes off cd after the duration so infinite chains seemsgood