General DiscussionKunkka + Echo Sabre

You need to have a KotL in your team so Tidebringer won't have a cooldown when you hit.

see attacker video..."trick of abuse", something like that...

tidebringer isnt a passive anymore, so that means that since it has a 4 second cooldown at max level, that means that a chakra magic reduces cooldown by 3/4/5/6 seconds, so level 2+chakra majic will set the cooldown to 0 seconds and that means you get to double tide with an echo sabre

kotl ch@kra majic reduces the cooldown of the next used ability.

only with kotl

actually i don't understand why would you need sabre with kotl, lategame you have enough as usually(esp. with moonshard) to attack twice fast enough, and early game it doesn't matter if you attack again instantly or after like 0.5 seconds

unless 2x tide only works with sabre

Kunkka with chakram magic, arcane rune and octarine.

Echo sabre -> no actual need for lots attack damage stack -> more damage items -> way more damage with 2x tidebringer? Or am i wrong?

Also what's the suggested midgame alternative to Echo/Daedalus?

Rapier

sabre is just for lulz chakra magic + tidebringer is enough.