General Discussionis iron talon core on non-roaming offlaners?

hero specific, but can be bought on most offlaners

Some offlaners don't really kill neutrals that well to begin with, probably not worth buying it on those heroes.

I bought it one time on tide and it was shit :D
But a different question: Whats the stack time if u pull the dire offlnae camp to the t1 (with cuting trees) I just tryed every thing (51-56) but it just didnt work
So is this even possible?

I saw a player get iron talon in a pro game on Tide, so I wonder if there's an argument to be had

and if youre asking what I think youre asking, the dire offlane is a 55 stack time

@Party
This camp is really hard to stack. Best approach is to cut a tree and pull creeps to the right.

@Snow on tha Bluff
I played few games recently as pure jungling Tide. I won only 2 matches out of 4, but I still think this is decent way to play this hero.

Basically Iron Talon turns any hero into a jungler.

well yeah it's going to be shit on tide cus the block doesn't stack with his shell and his auto attack is pathetic, he jungles by spamming anchor. Bassy would be a much better purchase.