melee is way more tanky, but also like 5 times more important. if you have enought time to take it, ALWAYS focus it first. if you dont have time, try to damage ranged rax cz it doesn't heal.
Yup it just takes experience on to know if u can be greedy and get melee or have to settle for ranged
If I'm playing AM or some split push hero, I go for melee first
if its an all or nothing push I try my best to aim for melee while team is killing ranged, coz i'm mainly playing pos 1 so i can get the meele in the time teammates get ranged
imho ranged rax is crap. if you know u cant get the melee rax, dont damage it cuz it will regen. just do some chip damage to ranged. In any scenario, if you would have to choose ranged vs melee choose to kill melee.
if u can kill the melee rax (no defenders) always focus that 100%
if u cant or ur trying to force bbs kill ranged unless you think you can burst the melee or pop bkb for it
half the time it isnt even worth going for ranged after melee imo, better to hit another t3 instead
lmao ranged rax is worthless unless u want megamegas
if i got time i go for melee rax then skip the ranged rax and go for another melee rax
think about it, 1 or 2 ranged creep getting stronger is cool but in the grand scheme of things it does jack shit
^ You're massively undervaluing ranged rax I think, it's far from worthless. The lane will start autopushing just fine when its down because the ranged creeps being in the back of the wave keep surviving.
The huge advantage of melee one obviously is that it will cripple the gold and xp gain of the enemy far more.
In your case, there should be someone more experienced around you, just do whatever he does. Eventually you will be able to gauge dmg done time taken etc and can take your own decisions.
i mean if you can take melee you take melee if you cant then hit the range its fairly straightforward
if ure chipping then hit the range etc etc
although mid ranged rax is practically useless IMO mid is so easy to push out
Depends if you wiped the entire team or 4 of them and is close enought to the base and their dead forever then go for tower and melee otherwise go for tower and damage the ranged as much as you dare or simply just take it but never go for melee unless you are 10 1000% certain you will get it down otherwise you would just have missed out on a rack cause it will regen.
usually when u go 5 vs 5 and want to high ground. and only deal low damage go for ranged barracks. it won't regen and easier when under pressure ( pressure of fight can happened anytime ) when u split pushing i always go for ranged first. cause pre-emptive agains tp.
when they dead 1/2/3 go for melee.
it's super simple. i'm surprised this thread got so much attention.
IF U CAN KILL MELEE RAX, DO SO.
IF YOU CAN'T, THEN KILL RANGED RAX.
/topic.
^ Filthy thats the right call bro!!
Well, im a disgusting naga picker, so i chip ranged rax all the time ;)
melee. the range has no purpose at all (especially middle lane, where it cann't counterpush AT ALL)
Even worst, i've one timing strat with huskar, and losing time for that ranged barrack can even lose you the game.
So, if you cann't take the melee, you shouldn't even be pushing (pushing that far). The risk for going that far is so high, it's not even worth taking a whole ranged barrack down
taking a side ranged barrack helps. dont pretend lane wont push back in with that barrack coz it will.
even tho melee is way more important, having any racks down is better than no racks.
meelee spawns 4(or more) creeps every 30 secons
thats 37-43 gold per kill which averages to 320 gold from that lane per minute (implying u can get all the lasthits)
and range rax spawns 1(or more) creeps every 30 seconds
which is 42-48 gold which leaves to 90 gold every 1 minute
so even in economical damage melee creeps are way superior and then the lane equilibrium things come in
melee creeps are much much more tankier and makes creepwaves push much harder compared to range ones
Doesn't 2 ranged creeps deal about as much damage as 5 melee? In creep vs creep combat, I mean.
Yeah they deal tons, but they cann't deal enough damage, if they have weakling protecting them.
The only good thing in taking ranged barrack (apart from easy gold) is: the day the lane counter push, you have like 4-5 wave of creep at their base (assuming no1 touched the lane), and considering having 2 cata upgraded is actually pretty nice to finish the last rax :p
@matrice
"if you cann't take the melee, you shouldn't even be pushing" - this is nonsense.
You overvalue melee rax.
Depends of the situation, but meele rax is way more important to destroy impact difference compared to range is huge but for example if u pushing with Brood and u don`t have enough time than better focus first range bit by bit.
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If its a small push window, I try to get the melee rax first, coz theres more melee creeps and therefore the lane remains pushed in for enemy.
But I've also heard how ranged is better to chip away at coz they dont heal.
Which rax is more suitable to take first, if you can only take one/dmg one