General DiscussionGuys how the fuck do you even win with invoker

U are playing the hero like without soul, u must adapt to ur teammates and enemies, if u dont have enough disablers , go qw
If u have disablers, go qe
If ur enemies are fking movile go qw for disrupting them going for orchid,
If ur enemies are slow u go qe for land sunstrikes and meteors with euls.
And overall get mid and fast midas, thats why i get only qe no matter what, the forge spirits coldsnap too good for harassing, catch enemies or even run meanwhile ur enemy mid gets hit by forge + coldsnap
Exp on invo is the most important thing, thats the reason of solo mid and fast midas, here are some examples for possible vs. X hero:

Storm : dont go midas, go orchid and go qw, concentrate in steal all his mana with emp+tornado +coldsnap combo (if u can kill him, do it actlly rofl)

Sf: ez winlane, go qe and spam coldsnap + forge, if u are pretty decent, kill him with coldsnap+meteor (only 1 lvl of wex and NOTHING more, assure it 4/1/4 for 2 F spirits.)

Pudge: to win agaist pudge with voker u must have alot of experience as invo (at least in my case) go qe and if u get hooked just get out with coldsnap, if he has ulti already, keep always ur forges to stop his ulti with coldsnap, dont focus on being agressive as i normally do with voker, focus ur farm for euls, once u have it, gank with the usual combo (suns meteor deaf)

Leshrac; is hard to fight against this broken piece of garbage, just try to ask a teammate if he can roam to help u , but only if none of u two dies on trying, apart from that, try to lh/ deny the most possible and gank b4 him (in late u just fking destroy him if u are good enough, the problem is the early)

Qop: same as storm, u need quas for regenerate from harass, if she blinks then strikes, dont waste ur opportunity, she is close enough for emp +tornado +coldsnap (easy kill) besides from that , finish fast ur orchid before she finish it first (if she does so then no much u can do, except if u counter it with euls on yourself or if the qop is retard)

Thats it for now x.x
One last thing, just dont give up , Karl is the most hard hero to master, the most adaptable also and is the player the one who decides how to play it, found ur way to play the hero , if u know very well this hero u will know the millions of different options he has for skill builds, combos, item builds and utilities for every spell
(Srsly sry for my bad english )

>make sick plays entire game
>lose because team doesn't know how to push advantage

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1469008792

As flashy as Aghs+Octa is

it does very little for amount of gold you're investing into it

get carried

destroy enemy ancient

^nice jokes mate real funny.

I play Invoker quite a bit and I go Quas Wex. QW Build has a window, the earlier you get orchid, the better. Invoker hits quite harder and attacks faster than most mids early on in the game. You go rush orchid, no midas needed. Don't gank too early, you need levels for your skills to be more impactful.

Destroy all tier one towers as early as possible to give you room to move, QW is an offensive build, so you need to gank a lot.
Don't focus too much on ganks though, farm in between them. I suggest farming their jungle. Don't show up on the map, this means avoiding common ward spots.

Before ganking, make sure your ghost walk is off cd so you can escape easily.

P.S. Invoker's a bad hero to play from behind, no recovery as he can't flash farm with any of his abilities besides Alacrity. It also seems that you know what you're doing with him.

Here's my Invoker record: http://www.dotabuff.com/players/102057664/matches?hero=invoker

if you wish be a good invoker http://www.dotabuff.com/players/136534757/matches u may refer this guy, one of my team best invoker watch his replay

I miss old Grimorum vs Don John rants

Add me if you want to learn Invoker, I am told I am rather good at it.