General Discussion[IN GAME] Axe build

I didn't know what to call them so I will refer to the items I deem core but not every game "situational core" because it's not really a one size fits all thing.

idk about soul ring first, i never max 2nd to get full use of it.
i usually just go aggro dual offlane or woods, i really need dagger in 8-12 minutes or gg wp and i feed.
i never go vanguard>crimson, i rush scepter and get blademail.
after that heart/bkb/shiva maybe cuirass if my team needs it, sometimes pipe and also rarely bloodstone (for ez katka).
force staff i think is great on axe for many reasons, euls also should be good i never tried it tho.
i mean for solo offlane this build is probably best (maxing w) and getting a soul ring to spam on supports.

Some people like maxing Q & E and getting one level of battle hunger which does very little and at that point you can just ignore the W as I have often done and get stats instead. However, this is an alternative build and has proven to be effective in a number of games. The sad thing about Axe is that there is no one size fits all build and different heroes or games means that you need to mix things up.

If you can manage a 5-6 minute Vanguard with tranquils which will delay your blink but not by much, will help ensure you can stay in your lane which will give you the farm for the blink anyways. Heart is rarely the answer and if you're having to go heart you have already left the game to long against what I assume is a really hard carry where heart doesn't really matter too much and the crimson will do more for you team in the long run.

^nah i get heart to dive t3 :))))).
i used to go tranquil and vanguard, but i feel like axe blink min 8 is scarier than high hp axe with no mobility.
ill play a ranked game, and use your build.
if i win i commend u, if i lose=reported :D

@Havoc

is 2x branch, 2x tango with stout alright?

Isn't AC better than Shiva?

^ Use shiva, blink and call in the same way you use shiva before you use phoenix dive. I rarely get AC and have only done it in games vs late game embers or PA's.

@hatsune not really for offlane because you will need those tranquil boots to maintain your lane presence and unless you want to fly shit out to you its best not to. You can have 2-3 minute tranquils or sooner if you get a careless melee carry.

@Slim you can get a blink by about 11-12 with a vanguard if you're doing well in lane and with scaling BH you can usually catch up to people without the blink.

Example of a variation of offlane build.

what do you think about blademail/force staff/casual cloak

also why do you put 2 points in battle hunger instead of 1 and stats all the way?

thanks

More damage, increased MS which is handy if you don't have a blink dagger that early. I did go through a phase where I did play axe with stats no battle hunger but it feel off quick due to more people being able to kite you far to easily. The battle hunger helps you target people who are leaving fighting areas giving you the bonus MS to pick them up later with ult or to just leave them to die depending on how you're maneuvering around the fights.

yeah, i mean i get the part of getting one point in battle hunger for utility, but i figured since the utility doesnt scale no point in putting extra levels in.

battle hunger does a lot of damage to a retreating enemy, i cant tell you how many times i've escaped an axe only to be hit with a lvl4 hunger that mops me on the way to the fountain

it's ~480 damage before resistance/regen

ty very much havoc, just give me some jungle rotations now !

idk i would take 1.2 stun duration and 6 cd reduction over a flat DoT increase because of how useless it becomes after laning stage (provided ur even laning, otherwise u only need 1 and tranqs to get like 400 MS at 4 min in)

if you're in that range to begin with he probably should have dunked you, bh also really unreliable and mana intensive early

It does actually scale really well, if you go for the soul ring (as the guide suggested and then into bloodstone) you can keep it up in fights and continuously re-engage which is what I do all the time. I will quite often back out after tanking initial damage to come back in to clean up.

You can have a 480 damage spell that you can use to hunt people all throughout the game. Its like other DoT damage it diminishes in effectiveness over time but is still useful as a spell if used correctly.

master havoc, nice build
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