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General DiscussionHow do you stop a refresher bkb void?

How do you stop a refresher bkb void? in General Discussion
MARLAN

    ... 12 seconds of invul.. mael and mask is all you need to kill any one person and he will get more items than that eventually.

    Disclaimer: I want to possibly apply this to meepo so asking team to get euls doesn't help. Forgot you can't ally cast that.

    Related: http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1084700073

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    jo~

      eblade

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      MARLAN

        Does banish go thru bkb? And even if it can I only save an ally like that,
        I can't cast while chrono'd (eblade a little expensive for support) maybe viable offlane/mid

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        jo~

          anyways venge is good
          es in theory if u blink and fissure block properly
          not sure about how earth spirits spell work but i believe his stone form can be cast
          omniknight with aghs , get a linkens on him later to cast on your core to block purge, but wont work for meepo
          its fairly common for supports to get eblade to counter void late game, seen it quite a few times actually

          MARLAN

            omni knight is good. I doubt most voids in my tier will get diffuse. thanks.

            Captania

              just don't let him chrono you m8

              efextoide

                earth spirit, agh on him and kick him ass

                THICC BABY SHUM

                  Doom ezy pzy 0 chronos

                  Kryptnyt

                    Mael/Mask/refresher/bkb/treads is actually a pretty farmed void. Don't give him that much space!

                    POG U POG CHAMP

                      HEX kill him first

                      Rise

                        Positioning/don't take a void to late game

                        Guts

                          Blink dagger

                          THICC BABY SHUM

                            yes?

                            Phenomenal

                              Pick Lina, get euls and aghanims, and every bkb carry will cry hard.

                              THICC BABY SHUM

                                how do u know that from 11 games 36% wr?

                                Serpent

                                  Wait for 6.83.

                                  Coco

                                    gg wp !

                                    kanye went to uni

                                      wk if you dont wanna play support

                                      3k Pog Champ

                                        Pick necrophos and axe and double rush dagon. Done.

                                        MARLAN

                                          @u suck

                                          .. he has refresher..

                                          Jay Ashborne

                                            satie says make the carry make eblade vs physical damage carries, and I guess void is one of them. makes sense. Just dont get initiated on I guess.

                                            Coco

                                              be serious pick tinker and bm, you might have a chance lol

                                              Smed

                                                evasion and or halebard

                                                MARLAN

                                                  how do you not get initiated on void. he stands behind his team so you cant sheep him first. if you blink on their team he timewalks on you. if you wait for him to initiate first, he chronos twice and gets 2-3 kills on your team, then you 3 or 2v5 and lose.

                                                  but omniknight/eblade kind of works if your other cores can buy it, but if its just omniknight thats an easy ban in CM, still works ranked AP though.

                                                  Grom

                                                    sd/bane seem ok

                                                    mwsqz

                                                      kiro, wd, sky, zeus, tc, silencer, dagger, any magic nuke

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                                                      Epic Sax Guy

                                                        If you've allowed a Void to farm Mael/Mask/refresher/bkb (probably some boots too) your problem is likely not in how to counter him at that stage but rather what you messed up in the early/mid game to give him that much space.

                                                        Dire Wolf

                                                          Countering him is a team effort, just get heroes that can blow him up during those double chronos, like witch dr, sniper, drow, lina. If he has bkb that kind of rules out some other great ones like skywrath and AA (cold feet amazing vs a chrono) but if he uses bkb a lot the 5 second duration isn't that long. Razor is good too but who his ult hits is unpredictable though a good drain on void will work well. If you have a witch dr and sniper on your team he has to kind of pick his poison cus a witch dr ult with aghs can wipe an enemy team and so can a sniper with no shutdown plus the headshot will severely limit voids attack speed.

                                                          And doubly if he pops mask. Void's with mask active die so freakin fast. I think the real issue is the rest of his team. If others on his team have heavy disable to let void just wreck everyone or nukes that work well in chrono then it's quite hard. Void plus witch dr, razor or death prophet is really hard to beat.

                                                          "If you've allowed a Void to farm Mael/Mask/refresher/bkb (probably some boots too) your problem is likely not in how to counter him at that stage but rather what you messed up in the early/mid game to give him that much space."

                                                          Not really, mask and maelstrom are cheap items. Bkb isn't that cheap but easy to build in pieces. Any decent void will find space to farm those. Refresher is the biggie, mask sure to go at him hard once he starts it.

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                                                          Dev

                                                            if u let him get fat like that u're already fucked m8.

                                                            Coco

                                                              come on, void is not so easy to shutdown... you need long silence and stun like earth spirit to initiate....

                                                              and when I ask teamate to pick imba hero, they almost always go void lol lol