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General DiscussionHow do you play OD vs Razor mid ?

How do you play OD vs Razor mid ? in General Discussion
Quick maffs

    How ?? he is faster and using astral when he links only hurts you and makes you slow.

    Like i never got so little farm as OD, the funny thing is that the razor didnt get any farm either

    J-Man

      Funny cause OD should WRECK razor mid. Either you did something wrong, or the razor did something wrong.

      just avoid static link and cast orb the shit out of him to where you get ult and boom, 1 shot 1 kill.

      It's like a sign of god, I stopped playing razor because of an OD mid.

      Quick maffs

        Razor sucks against od mid ? ...... if you say so ...

        Wink

          dont listen to soul eater, the anime is great, the dota player though is not so great. razor to od is like viper to od.

          J-Man

            Razor's low INT gain makes him very weak against OD. OD has force staff, then good luck using static link against him.

            He'll steal what little INT you have, then proceed to harass you with orb till you beg for mercey. That's my 2 cent's though, for I've only fought OD Mid against razor one time, then I just said never again.

            Here's the game, well I don't think it would apply anymore, cause that was way back when.
            http://dotabuff.com/matches/215993576

            I think I did something wrong, got carried so hard that game.

            King of Low Prio

              Ive seen players get a bottle to deal with it but eventually u will need a gank to help u win the lane

              Wink

                all razor has to do against od is max E and W and he auto wins the lane. every time od tries to astral razor, he takes retarded damage and slow, and if he tries to fight razor, maxed link is ridiculous.

                Quick maffs

                  rolf, soul eater the reason why razor is good against OD is because you get link and passive, you dont get your nuke. In another words your skill build that games was wrong against a OD

                  I had to get bottle but still its a fucking pain in the ass, if you cast astral you get really slow ( i think its almost 2 seconds ).

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                  J-Man

                    yeah looking back at this match being 10 months ago, first thing comes to mind is "What the fuck was I thinking."

                    Nothing more to do here. Don't me anymore, cause according to wink I'm just an idiot.

                    Quick maffs

                      nah you just gave your opinion, at least your learned something new right

                      J-Man

                        yeah, 10 month's ago was a long time for me to go back on a game that would be considered now 2k trash tier.

                        Probably around the same time I took this picture:
                        http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=135047907
                        And as you can tell by the wins, I was but a wee lad back then who didn't know much.

                        Hopefully I can make it better.

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                        Zenoth

                          just a stick alone will give you all the mana you need to spam Link especially with the changes that returns you the mana when the int comes back.

                          I've never lost a lane against OD with Razor in my life lol.

                          Wink

                            i didnt say idiot, i said not a great dota player

                            N4

                              OD mid? Take Meepo and get him REKT on lvl 3, haha! :D

                              Quick maffs

                                Zenoth any tips for the od player ?

                                Or i just cry and pray ?

                                Wink

                                  @dorkly
                                  y u no ask me for help? .-.
                                  Try asking for ganks, rotating lane, stacking jungle camps, etc.
                                  An early point of Q would work wonders (something like W>E>E>Q>E>R) and just orb him out of lane and pray for essence procs

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                                  Born

                                    you can't win with meepo vs od. stupid astral drains clone mana as well.

                                    OT razor shits all over od it's not even funny. 2 levels in link is sufficient because the dmg you drain in the meantime should drop od dmg close to 0.
                                    mana for link is 20, so you will be always casting it when it's off the cd. not to mention duration is smth like 15 sec with cd being something like 20. it's retarded spell, wrecks melees, and main reason it works vs od is slow you get from casting astral.

                                    you can't win lane. best you can hope for is to alter your build into orb (which is not ideal way of playing od mid) and try to grab boots asap. tho razor is known to start with boots vs od.

                                    Gerry

                                      Arteezy won mid (kept up in last hits) today as OD vs Razor... but he was amazing

                                      Trodlabundin

                                        OD can win to Razor mid even if equally skilled. If you manage to trick Razor to link you when you're about to turn around and get the link of very quick you can end up winning lane easilyy. Its hard rdoe

                                        swoleytrinity

                                          Funny cause OD should WRECK razor mid.

                                          Ummmm....you know razor is a counter to OD mid, and a good one at that....but I would suggest getting a decently early level in orb and just bumming him out of the lane.

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                                          Born

                                            "trick" lol.
                                            at what level are we talking about here again?

                                            "fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on me"

                                            Quick maffs

                                              In another words you can only cry right ?

                                              some random trashcan

                                                or you could just change lanes and send a carry and support mid and od and a support bottom

                                                but who does that in pubs anyway

                                                FlipFlop

                                                  arteezy didnt won againts razor in his lane, its just his teammate creating so much space and dont underestimate a team who have 2 farm god.

                                                  jo~

                                                    if you go early boots and only astral him when your creeps are more than his, so that u can safe ur astrals to break his link you might be able to out cs him.

                                                    Zenoth

                                                      No, once Razor gets level 2 of his passive OD is forced to take 2-3 seconds of link even if he immediately Astrals.