Missed Sunstrike on stunned targets? we had no stuns.
It's pretty stupid to waste a lvl 1 invoke to create spirits when you're constantly getting sunstrike kills and have to have snap ready against slark.
And im pretty sure i saved dark seer with euls when pa was hunting him, i guess you didn't notice that either.
So im Delusional now? you're just... sad, honestly, i never claimed to be one of the best invokers, i never even said i was good. i was simply stating that i've had more success with exort than wex.
You're just butthurt cuz i sniped the enemy bounter hunter in invis.
Do I have to remind you that you were the one jumping onto me? and not the other way around.
I don't even have any need to prove anything to you.
Since I learned Samspon is a nigga I'm afraid of saying anything :( But Empire always uses QE and they rape with it. QE has better laning presence than QW but is easier to gank. Also has way more damage but far less disables. So it depends on the game.
he was talking about saving people with euls in which he said specifically he saved BH with euls which was high last match NOT the match he linked
no 70 matches stacking in unranked is not proving anything because they do it specifically to boost their win rate. Which is why you see a huge bump in win rate when you cut off the competition
Hmm, most of my ranked games are played as invoker also.
IN this patch. so its not 70 games solely unranked.
And you're right, i did state that i saved BH in my latest match, but i also asked you to watch another replay where it happend numerous times instead of just once. I guess that was some misscommunication between us.
And stacking? Im usually just going duo, very rarely im 5 man stacking , or even 4 man stacking.
if ur doin it for the right reasons then sure, i.e. viper/bs/od - good luck out csing these boys while harassing them and surviving
im a fairly decent viper imo and i was surprised that a voker beat me mid.. just kept spamming coldsnap + alacrity + spirit at good times and zoned me out.
but honestly the dmg difference in comparison the speed, i'd have to vote for speed
u can have a lot more presence with q/w and shut down majority of the enemy's mana pools
lvl 5 + phase boots is quite enough dmg even without exort (;
There is nothing in particular that is so terrible with Quas/Exort builds as a lot of the good invokers will do it but the quas/wex build has become increasingly popular due to the currently game favoring the mid/early game fights. An exort invoker doesn't lend itself to an early game but this is not the case 100% of the time and there maybe times where exort will be the favored build due to already having team fight but lacking in damage.
As a lot of people have mentioned above sacrificing damage for movement, mobility, and team fight makes players more relaxed as they know that if shit goes down they aren't just going to get a sunstrike, a "what could I do", and a "Well Played" from the chat wheel.
Missed Sunstrike on stunned targets? we had no stuns.
It's pretty stupid to waste a lvl 1 invoke to create spirits when you're constantly getting sunstrike kills and have to have snap ready against slark.
And im pretty sure i saved dark seer with euls when pa was hunting him, i guess you didn't notice that either.
So im Delusional now? you're just... sad, honestly, i never claimed to be one of the best invokers, i never even said i was good. i was simply stating that i've had more success with exort than wex.
You're just butthurt cuz i sniped the enemy bounter hunter in invis.
Do I have to remind you that you were the one jumping onto me? and not the other way around.
I don't even have any need to prove anything to you.
i got a fucking 0 % winrate on quas wex invoker !!!
'we had no stuns.'
Mirana on team
how far can the delusions go............
????
http://dotabuff.com/matches/610545784
????? where is my mirana?
well sampson the guy is able to play a reasonable invoker (based on winrate) in the same bracket as you..
Well lets point out that sampson started with this shit
"I love when people try and manipulate stats to suit their agenda
I AM LIKE 100% WINRATE WITH VIPER TODAY "
But the guy actually played 70 games with is more than enough to prove a point
So, Sampson = Wrong
Since I learned Samspon is a nigga I'm afraid of saying anything :( But Empire always uses QE and they rape with it. QE has better laning presence than QW but is easier to gank. Also has way more damage but far less disables. So it depends on the game.
he was talking about saving people with euls in which he said specifically he saved BH with euls which was high last match NOT the match he linked
no 70 matches stacking in unranked is not proving anything because they do it specifically to boost their win rate. Which is why you see a huge bump in win rate when you cut off the competition
@ Sam #2
nobody is saying Q E is bad what I am saying is most Q E players in pub are arrogant and delusional which led to him being muted.
Well if you stack with good people yeah....
I DARE you to get 70 % winrate with any hero playing with my friends
Plus if you look at the guy winrate with friends is quite low
"nobody is saying Q E is bad what I am saying is most Q E players in pub are arrogant and delusional which led to him being muted."
Ok that its bullshit, grim for example adapts his build to the game and to the enemy picks, i guess when he goes for exort he is arrogant, oh well.
Hmm, most of my ranked games are played as invoker also.
IN this patch. so its not 70 games solely unranked.
And you're right, i did state that i saved BH in my latest match, but i also asked you to watch another replay where it happend numerous times instead of just once. I guess that was some misscommunication between us.
And stacking? Im usually just going duo, very rarely im 5 man stacking , or even 4 man stacking.
so 70 games is more than enough.
His ranked stats this patch
Invoker 75 % winrate 4.36 kda 20 games
I didn't say that to you. Just wanted to mention the first sentence.
Feels like the entire purpose of the thread got derailed by Sampson here.
can you do an autism test and show us the results, thanks
i have a theory that people who still insist exort quas is better than quas wex or for that matter, still pick invoker, is autistic
The worst ones are 1 quas 1 wex 7 exort, because that just means they're going the sunstrike KS build.
dat voker hate. it's beautiful
if ur doin it for the right reasons then sure, i.e. viper/bs/od - good luck out csing these boys while harassing them and surviving
im a fairly decent viper imo and i was surprised that a voker beat me mid.. just kept spamming coldsnap + alacrity + spirit at good times and zoned me out.
but honestly the dmg difference in comparison the speed, i'd have to vote for speed
u can have a lot more presence with q/w and shut down majority of the enemy's mana pools
lvl 5 + phase boots is quite enough dmg even without exort (;
There is nothing in particular that is so terrible with Quas/Exort builds as a lot of the good invokers will do it but the quas/wex build has become increasingly popular due to the currently game favoring the mid/early game fights. An exort invoker doesn't lend itself to an early game but this is not the case 100% of the time and there maybe times where exort will be the favored build due to already having team fight but lacking in damage.
As a lot of people have mentioned above sacrificing damage for movement, mobility, and team fight makes players more relaxed as they know that if shit goes down they aren't just going to get a sunstrike, a "what could I do", and a "Well Played" from the chat wheel.