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General DiscussionBasher or Desolator? Which better for BH

Basher or Desolator? Which better for BH in General Discussion
iphone....wow

    Let's go to topic, since i'm a newbie here and know a little bit with DOTA1 or DOTA2.
    When using BH, usually i max his 1st and 3rd skill. Then roam with Pudge (if a teammates pick) or any Ganker
    But at mid-late game i prefer to built my hero as carry.
    Which item is better? Basher or Desolator? (I prefer desolator to deal higher damage with Jinada)
    or Basher (Good stun, but with chance)
    This is my built when using BH
    (W-E-Q-Q-Q-R-Q-E-E-E-R-W-W-W-U-R-...)
    Just give me ur other opinion here thanks, sorry if my english bad ><

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    Chris.

      obviously basher, your attackspeed is so high that you will permabash people.

      iphone....wow

        @Fuzzy
        But basher have cooldown when triggered, and also it chance about 25%
        It mean 1/4 my attack will trigger it, but if lucky it will be more than predicted

        [Lk].Zano

          ^ He was mocking you.

          But in all seriousness, read that guide which our admin just posted, Sampson knows a lot when it comes to BH.

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          Luxon

            why not both?

            salt enjoyer

              This is not even open for discussion. Desolator.

              Androgynous

                You don't max your third skill. You either max your Shuriken, or you get 2 points into Shuriken and max Jinada, both builds give damage. If you max Shadow Walk then your damage is much lower. Only get a 2nd point into Shadow Walk so that the duration is longer than the cooldown (20s duration, 15s cooldown).

                Almost always you want to get Shadow Walk first in case you need to run past wards, or to escape a gank. An offlaner without their escape tool is useless, because it is what allows them to solo the offlane and not die.

                If you are going for a max Shuriken build (useful when you don't have farm), the skill order would either be:

                • E-W-Q-Q-Q-R-Q-W-W-W-E-R-E-E-Stats-R
                • E-W-E-Q-Q-R-Q-Q-W-W-R-E-E-E-Stats-R

                If you go 2-1-2 at level 5, the extra duration on Shadow Walk means that Shadow Walk's duration is longer than it's cooldown, allowing you to stay constantly invisible if you have the mana pool.

                If you go 3-1-1 at level 5, Shuriken is maxed one level earlier but you'll have to be more strategic with your Shadow Walk usage. If it's about to run out, you need somewhere to hide, and fast.

                Otherwise, the 2 in Shuriken + max Jinada is good if you are dominating your lane, and because you are able to get farm on Bounty Hunter e.g. fast Phase + Drum, Jinada actually becomes useful early game. The lower cooldown means you can harass more often, or when ganking, you can continue chasing because of Jinada's slow.

                For this skillbuild, you want to go:

                • E-W-E-Q-Q-R-W-W-W-Q-R-Q-E-E-Stats-R
                • E-W-W-Q-Q-R-W-W-Q-Q-R-E-E-E-Stats-R

                Note that you still get 2 points into Shuriken before level because it has really good damage with 2 points into it. Level 1 Shuriken has 100 damage, level 2 has double damage, at 200, it's almost like a ranged Jinada hit for 115 mana.

                For the most part, you probably want Desolator for the extra damage, as well as giving your team extra damage. If your team already has one, you could go BKB instead, or a support item like Vlads. In my opinion you only go Basher if you were building a late game Abyssal Blade.

                Wink

                  deso then basher

                  salt enjoyer

                    I have actually seen people go no shuriken and instead go for full lane harass and it actually concedes kills. However, don't try this unless you are an actual confident bounty hunter player.

                    Gustaphos

                      Yes use sampsons guide it is the best and his 10 years of bh experience shouldn't go unnoticed. Use his guide it is wuw to do.

                      King of Low Prio

                        @Wink

                        Ive done the max harass build, I will do it if they put a solo safelane melee carry and he is awful :)

                        Woof Woof

                          force staf then max dagon and sheepstick afterwards it works #srs

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                          Wink

                            @sampson

                            Wrong person bro

                            Noé

                              NEITHER! GO BATTLEFURY OR GO HOME

                              King of Low Prio

                                well shit I shud not smoke before noon :O

                                Low Expectations

                                  best item for bounty is shadow blade

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                                  Faded

                                    no bounty is like a 1-2 hit kill machine

                                    high dmg but slow atk for an agi hero

                                    ... but abyssal is not bad for the dmg + 2 sec stun vs bkb, but i wouldnt get basher for the right-click dmg

                                    Miku Plays

                                      Why not MKB?

                                      Whatislove

                                        @ Professional potato best comment..........

                                        blink dagon best troll build EU.

                                        MADARASINDAHOUSE

                                          Make Sampson and win every game

                                          Yoichi Isagi | Blue Lock

                                            Basher if they are always getting away with low hp. desolator only if I'm not feeding or team is not behind. Having desolator is nice, but if you can only make like 4 auto attacks whole team fight I would get something else.

                                            Player 103543943

                                              Shadow blade use to be legit...

                                              Player 103543943

                                                Get that 150 bonus dmg on ur crit

                                                Player 103543943

                                                  That was the shit

                                                  Player 103543943

                                                    Against noob picks

                                                    iphone....wow

                                                      ^
                                                      Same with his wind walk then -_-
                                                      but Does it stack with Jinada damage (backstab SB + Jinada)
                                                      Why not orchid? to prevent escape + deal more damage?

                                                      Yoichi Isagi | Blue Lock

                                                        racecar bh.. phase, drums, euls and forcestaff for the CHUU, CHUUT!