7.02 Patch Analysis
- Shrines are now vulnerable after a T3 tower dies (same as the Shrines inside the base), rather than after all T2 towers die
This can change the dynamic of the game quite quickly. So far, teams that lose their T2 towers have inevitable also lost their Shrines, meaning that the map control disadvantage shrunk even further within the span of minutes.
Binding Shrines’ vulnerability to a T3 tower seems more well rounded. It also gives attackers an advantage to take map control after breaking highground successfully in just one lane. Before, even if you had taken down rax in one lane, you could not get as much map control unless you had taken down all T2 towers as well.
- Sentry Wards now come in packs of 1 for 100 gold (instead of 2 for 200)
Icefrog has implemented a lot of quality of life improvements for supports in the past years, so it comes to no surprise that further improvements are made. This allows for both supports to split the gold among them better. Now, technically, both supports could purchase both an Observer Ward and a Sentry for 165 Gold each.
- Satyr Trickster Purge slow from 100/80/60/40/20% over 5 seconds to 50/40/30/20/10%
- Helm of the Dominator All Stats from 6 to 4
- Helm of the Dominator creeps now give a constant 125 gold bounty
Helm of the Dominator has been the center of attention in 7.xx for many people. It was the most changed item in the new patch and it alone has made it important for players to know which neutral creeps provide what benefit. The item is almost a must-purchase for every line-up, with an incredibly strong +8HP regen aura. It already has affected many popular builds, such as replacing 
Vladmir's Offering for Anti-Mages.
It comes to no surprise that the item has now been nerfed. The strong regen remains, but the stats bonus, which almost rivaled that of 
Veil of Discord, has now been nerfed. The bonus gold for dominated creeps is a nerf as well, as now killing a dominated creep basically equals killing an ancient creep.
- Shadow Walk damage for Silver Edge from 225 to 200
- Tome of Knowledge additional XP per used Tome from 100 to 135
- Blademail damage return no longer spell lifesteals off of returned damage
- Dragon Lance agility from 14 to 13
- Battle Fury Radius from 280 to 300
- Battle Fury Distance from 520 to 570
- Bloodthorn cooldown from 11 to 13
- Solar Crest Armor from 10 to 12 (same for transferring to Ally/Enemy)
- Sange maim chance from 24% to 30%
- Sange and Yasha Greater Maim chance from 30% to 35%
- Heaven's Halberd maim chance from 24% to 35%
- Heaven's Halberd cooldown from 30 to 22
These are some basic item buffs and nerfs that were definitely necessary. 
Dragon Lance is definitely a core item on virtually any ranged core and it’s stats are too good to pass up on. That likely won’t change, but it’s good to have it nerfed ever so slightly.
Bloodthorn has gotten very popular as of late, thus increasing the cooldown seems like a natural decision to make.
Ever since the recipe for Silver Edge has been changed, 
Sange has been an almost irrelevant item. Sange&Yasha is not a popular item and neither is 
Heaven's Halberd. It seems logical to buff all three of these items. Lesser Maim is an ability that has been buffed for years now. In fact, it used to provide a 5% chance to proc. The now 30% (or 35%) chance will unlikely bring the item back into play though.
- Regen Rune now has the same damage dispel rules as Healing Salve
- Aegis expiration regen now has the same damage dispel rules as Healing Salve
Another quality of life improvement in this patch. It seemed rather silly that the Aegis regeneration could be stopped by just a rogue ranged creep that randomly attacks you out of nowhere. As for the Regen Rune, it is quite a buff for the rune. Heroes with spammable spells can now use the entire duration of the rune to farm a jungle with.
- Observer Wards now have a Fog of War simulator to show you the area the ward will reveal (taking into account trees and terrain height)
This quality of life improvement should prevent inefficient warding, though for now it has caused more bugs than it has helped.
- Towers no longer attack neutral team units
- The following abilities cause neutrals to temporarily not draw aggro: Meat Hook, Telekinesis and Toss
At Dota Pit, Faceless showed how efficiently teams can pull creepwaves to neutral creeps to deny the opponent both farm and xp. Other teams have adapted this strategy and others have at least used this method and other similar ones to have a headstart. The Radiant camp above the T2 could be pulled in a way that would allow the tower to hit the creeps ever so slowly, allowing for an easy and early level 2-3 for any support. Whether or not such methods should be implemented in the game is a discussion in itself, but the biggest issue was that it was inconsistent on the Dire side, giving Radiant a vast advantage.
- Added more trees for TP cover around the dire towers
- Swapped the dire secondary jungle ancients and medium camp spots (and improved spawn boxes/stackability)
- The Dire ward spot to the left of the Ancients no longer gives vision over the rune area infront of Roshan
- Slightly adjusted the dire secondary jungle bounty rune further back
- Reduced spawnbox size for both Dire hard camps
- Shifted down the spawnbox for the ancient camp (formerly medium camp) in the Dire secondary jungle (so a high ground ward does not block the camp)
- Fixed a rare case where Dire ancients could be stuck between trees when spawning
These are just small adjustments to make jungling and pulling/stacking on the Dire side more consistent and easier. Adjusting the ward spot close to the Dire ancients to not provide vision over Roshan’s runespot seems weird, as the Radiant counter-part does give vision over it still.
Hero Changes
Instead of addressing every change individually, we’ll talk about some of the patterns in this patch.
Talents have been the center of attention for 7.02’s balance changes. This allows Icefrog to nerf/buff heroes not overall, but for the state of the game. Some heroes are stronger early game, some later. Either way, most buffs seem to have a common theme. Movement Speed and XP Gain talents have both been very underwhelming so far, so both have either been improved or replaced with a different talent. In general, 7.02 addresses some of the most underpicked talents in the game.
A flat increase to XP Gain or Movement Speed will unlikely see a hero be picked more often, unless that talent was already the picked talent at that point. If any XP Gain or MS increase talent was underpicked before 7.02, it seems unlikely that that’ll change, even with the buff.
Heroes that have noteworthy XP Gain changes are 
Tusk and 
Undying. A 35% XP Gain looks incredibly strong on paper, especially since both can be played as a greedy 4 position support or even a 3 position core. Neither’s XP Gain talent was the dominant choice however, so it remains to be seen if that’ll change.
Another, albeit small, theme in this patch was to address + Armor and + HP talents. Additional armor for agility heroes is rather underwhelming, as agility naturally provides additional Armor. Health increases my be nice, but these talents often lose out to their alternatives. As a result, many HP talents have either been buffed or swapped out for better alternatives.
Hero changes that have been omitted have been deemed as too minor to comment on and are unlikely to make a significant impact.
Alchemist- Level 15 Talent from +15 Movement Speed to +80 Unstable Concoction Damage
- Level 25 Talent from -4 Acid Spray Armor to -5
+6 Stats at level 15 still seem more intriguing than + 80 Unstable Concoction Damage, especially when considering the general mindset and playstyle of an Alchemist at that stage. Additional Concoction damage may be nice for an Alchemist playstyle that won’t go into Radiance, possibly a support/utility Alchemist. That said, the stat talent is rather underwhelming as well, which is why it was pretty close to the MS talent’s pickrate. Similarly, the additional minus armor at level 25 is unlikely to become popular either for the current Alchemist playstyle.
Ancient Apparition- Level 15 Talent from +25 Health Regen to +30
- Level 15 Talent from +15 Intelligence to -1s Ice Vortex Cooldown
- Level 20 Talent from -30s Respawn Time to -35s
At a roughly 50% pickrate, Ancient Apparition’s level 15 talents couldn’t be more difficult to decide between. Changing the additional intelligence to a cooldown reduction on Ice Vortex seems to be nice, but it also begs to question whether or not AA will have sufficient mana to actually spam the spell often enough to make the talent worth it. Effectively, AA can now have 5 Ice Vortexes up at the same time, as opposed to 4. Whether that is more useful than the HP regeneration will be seen.
Anti-Mage- Level 10 Talent from +6 Strength to +150 Health
- Level 15 Talent from +250 Health to -1s Blink Cooldown
- Level 25 Talent from -2s Blink Cooldown to -50s Mana Void Cooldown
6 strength translate into 120HP. Effectively, this is a buff. There is basically no difference between providing additional strength or HP, aside from the minor HP regen from raw strength, so this change may just allow players to easier recognize and realize what benefit they receive from a certain talent. That said, 20 damage at level 10 is quite significant, so it seems unlikely that the dominance of this damage talent (80% pickrate) will change anytime soon.
Similarly, the bonus Attack Speed at level 15 is great for Anti-Mage as well. While AM is an agility hero that can naturally acquire bonus Attack Speed through agility items, his early itemization (Helm of Dominator + Battle Fury) make this talent much more appealing than a cooldown reduction on Blink. And unless Anti-Mage faces a variety of intelligence cores that warrant a low cooldown on Mana Void, the +25 agility at level 25 will always be superior.
Bounty Hunter- Scepter now also increases Shuriken Toss ministun duration from 0.1 to 0.75
- Level 10 Talent from +15% XP Gain to +20%
- Level 20 Talent from +100 Damage to +120 Damage
- Level 20 Talent from 8% Spell Amplification to +75 Shuriken Toss Damage
- Level 25 Talent from +20% Evasion to +25%
Swapping out the Spell Amplification for additional, flat magic damage for his Shuriken Toss makes Bounty Hunter significantly stronger. Unless he built into a Dagon, the Spell Amplification only boosted Shuriken Toss, providing mere 30 extra damage (natural spell amplification through intelligence not included), as opposed to now 75.
Brewmaster- Fire Spirit now has phasing movement
- Level 10 Talent from +25 Attack Speed to +30
- Level 15 Talent from +20 Movement Speed to +75 Thunder Clap Damage
- Level 20 Talent from -25s Respawn Time to -35s
- Level 25 Talent from 14 Primal Split Unit Armor to +20
Brewmaster has already seen a bit of competitive play in 7.01 and these changes will further improve his viability. Fire Spirit can’t be blocked by the other spirits anymore (or any unit for that matter) and the additional Thunder Clap damage will come in handy in the midgame.
Bristleback- Quill Spray Max damage from 450 to 550
- Viscous Nasal Goo Scepter range from 700 to 750
- Level 15 Talent from +20 Movement Speed to +4 Max Goo Stacks
- Level 20 Talent from -30s Respawn Time to -35s
- Level 25 Talent from +4 Max Goo Stacks to +20 Quill Stack Damage
Enabling Max Goo Stacks at level 15 should greatly increase Bristleback’s midgame impact and it’ll likely out-perform the 200HP talent alternative by quite a lot.
Broodmother- Level 10 Talent from +15% XP Gain to +25%
- Level 10 Talent from +10 Agility to +60 Spawn Spiderling Damage
- Level 15 Talent from +7 Armor to +250 Health
- Level 20 Talent from +300 Health to +8 Spiders Attack Damage
Spawn Spiderlings was already a good nuke that had been nerfed not too long ago. Additional 60 damage at level 10 is a massive increase. The alternative of 25% XP Gain also looks appealing for cases where there aren’t as many openings to kill with the nuke. While the additional attack damage for the spiders may be nice, +8 webs allow Broodmother to have control over half the map at level 25, which is much more valuable.
Dark Seer- Movement speed reduced from 300 to 295
- Ion Shell manacost from 70/90/110/130 to 100/110/120/130
- Level 15 Talent from +90 Damage to +120
- Level 20 Talent from +25 Intelligence to +75 Vacuum AoE
- Level 20 Talent from +12 Strength to +10% Cooldown Reduction
- Level 25 Talent from +12% Cooldown Reduction to +25 Strength
- Level 25 Talent from +70 Ion Shell Damage to +80
Dark Seer is one of the few heroes that have and will likely continue to stand the test of time. He’s been nerfed numerous times but remains a relevant hero throughout most metas. So these nerfs to his Ion Shell manacost or MS aren’t anything big by any means. Losing 2% cooldown reduction in return for 13 strength (or 10 Ion Shell damage) is also a minor nerf, but also not big enough to push him out of the meta.
Disruptor- Level 15 Talent from +200 Health to -3s Kinetic Field Cooldown
- Level 20 Talent from 15% Cooldown Reduction to +400 Health
This is quite the nerf for Disruptor. The hero wasn’t overly strong by any means, but a 15% cooldown reduction may have been too good. Providing a -3s cooldown on Kinetic Field is still a strong, as is any cooldown reduction talent. Effectively, it translates into 2.6 seconds between Kinetic Fields, as opposed to 5.6s without this talent, or 2.9s with the old 15%CD reduction talent.
Doom:
- Level 10 Talent from +8 Intelligence to +80 Devour Bonus Gold
- Level 10 Talent from +150 Health to +250
- Level 15 Talent from +6 Armor to +15 Scorched Earth Damage/Heal
- Level 15 Talent from +15 Movement Speed to +20
- Level 20 Talent from +65 Damage to +35 Doom DPS
At level 10, Doom can now have a built-in Hand of Midas. Devour has always been that, but the bonus gold now extends to a total of 180 gold with this new talent, while Midas provides 190. And of course, it is more effective than a Hand of Midas due to it’s incredibly low cooldown at level 4 (40s). Midas provides 114 GPM, while Doom’s Devour, with this talent, now provides 270 GPM, as opposed to 150 GPM before this patch. (These calculations assume that the creep can be devoured within the 40 seconds of the spell’s cooldown and don’t account for the gold the creep provides by killing it.)
Losing the armor talent is a nerf in itself towards Doom, as he is notoriously low on armor and usually has to build into armor items. That said, the Scorched Earth bonus damage/heal is a 37.5% increase and thus provides a lot of sustain.
Quantifying the DPS of increased attack damage vs. that of a spell is difficult, especially since either ones impact can vary from game to game. Increasing Doom’s (the spell) DPS seems more natural and fitting though.
Ember Spirit- Root now disables Activate Fire Remnant
- Level 10 Talent from 15% Spell Amplification to 12%
Ember Spirit has been one of the most popular heroes in this patch, and especially the higher tier bracket (27% pickrate in 5k+ MMR) enjoys playing the hero. The new magic damage build was largely inspired by the talents and the new playstyle also increased his winrate significantly (54% in 5k+MMR). He’s also been well recognized in pro play and is a top pick/ban in most events/qualifiers. It seemed only natural to see him nerfed, even slightly. Taking away a bit of strength in his early game seems appropriate and allowing Root abilities to disable Activate Fire Remnant seems only logical at this point, considering all the other mobility based abilities that Root disables. This allows certain heroes to be more effective and definitely increases the value of Rod of Atos.
Lone Druid- Level 10 Talent from +200 Attack Range to +175
- Level 15 Talent from +65 Damage to +55
- Level 20 Talent from +7 Spirit Bear Armor to +12
- Level 20 Talent from -50s Respawn Time to -40s
The other hero next to Ember Spirit that has been at the center of attention in this patch. Lone Druid is a force to be reckoned with both in high tier pubs (52% winrate in 5k+ MMR) and in pro play (2nd most contested hero in on-going DAC Qualifiers).
The new, more fighting oriented build is possible through the hero’s talents alone, so it was logical for those to be nerfed. That said, these nerfs aren’t big enough to really hurt the hero notably. It likely won’t be the last nerf towards Lone Druid’s talents.
Luna:
- Base attack damage reduced by 6
- Lunar Blessing Night Vision bonus from 1000 to 250/500/750/1000
- Level 10 Talent from +4 Armor to +15 Movement Speed
Luna has been a top carry in the meta for a while now. Her ability to seamlessly transition from teamfights into taking objectives is top tier and close to unmatched. She is a symbol of the what the current meta is all about, but that, and her dominance in hier tier pub games (30% pick- and 55% winrate in 5k+MMR) is also why it made sense to nerf her.
Reducing the base damage is quite significant, especially for when Luna needs to contest the farm against an actual opponent in lane. Lunar Blessing’s reduced night vision will also cripple her early- to midgame, as usually Luna players will max it 3rd or at most 2nd.
Lycan- Added to CM
- Agility gain from 1.5 to 1.0
- Howl manacost from 30 to 40
- Level 15 Talent from -20s Respawn Time to -25s
We discussed Lycan roughly two weeks ago and determined, that the hero is quite strong at the moment. The new Helm of the Dominator complements him well and his new Howl allows him to have high impact without good micro. So while his consistently high winrate (53-55%) raises concerns over his balance, these nerfs are significant enough to warrant letting him back into Captain’s Mode.
Reducing his agility gain is huge and amounts to 5 agility lost (or rather “not gained) at level 11, which translates into 1 lost armor and 11 lost attack speed. While Lycan usually builds into attack speed granting items/auras anyway, the lost armor is definitely noteworthy. (A more in-depth discussion on armor can be found here)
Magnus- Level 15 Talent from +50 Damage to +12 Strength
- Level 20 Talent from +15 Strength to +15% Empower Damage/Cleave
- Level 20 Talent from +20 Movement to +40
This is quite the early-game nerf towards the lately popular Magnus fighting build, which includes Echo Sabre and Daedalus. It’s still a viable build, especially later on as the 15% Empower buff will make up for the damage difference and outweigh the lack of it earlier, since it also benefits teammates.
Mirana- Level 20 Talent from +8 Armor to -4s Sacred Arrow cooldown
- Level 20 Talent from +40 Damage to +50 Damage
Being able to shoot out Sacred Arrows every 13 seconds is quite something. It may not be sufficient at level 20, as 50 damage seem to be consistently more useful, but it is at least a viable alternative, in comparison to the additional armor.
Monkey King- Base armor reduced by 3
- Jingu Mastery bonus damage from 80/120/160/200 to 75/100/125/150
- Jingu Mastery lifesteal from 20/30/40/50% to 15/30/45/60%
- Wukong's Command no longer continues while reincarnating
- Level 15 Talent from +20 Movement Speed to +75 Jingu Mastery Damage
- Level 20 Talent from +15 Strength to 20% Magic Resistance
- Level 25 Talent from +25% Magic Resistance to +25 Strength
Monkey King has only been in the game for about 2 months and already he’s been marked as one of the more annoying heroes to deal with. Slight nerfs in 7.01 were good and timely, but apparently not enough, even though his winrate (50% across all brackets) didn’t really warrant it.
That said, the nerfs to Jingu Mastery aren’t significantly bad and the bonus damage at level 15 more than makes up for it. What hurts is the reduced base armor and the nerf to Wukong’s Command. Before, Monkey King could zone out opponents from objectives (towers or rax) with an Aegis, quite effectively as well.
Shadow Demon- Disruption illusion damage taken from 200% to 300%
- Level 25 Talent from -1s Shadow Poison Cooldown to -6s Soul Catcher Cooldown
A necessary nerf, given Shadow Demon’s popularity and success in pro games (most contested support in DAC qualifiers so far and 68% winrate).
Treant Protector- Leech Seed slow from 28% to 22/24/26/28%
- Nature's Guise Bash duration from 0.7/1.2/1.7/2.2 to 0.4/1.0/1.6/2.2
- Nature's Guise movement bonus from 16/22/28/34% to 10/18/26/34%
- Level 20 Talent from +65 Damage to +90
As previously discussed, Treant is back with a vengeance and is currently the hero with the highest winrate in the 5k+ MMR bracket. These nerfs seem fitting, as they address Treant’s early game potential, though it seems unlikely that they will have a huge impact on his winrate.
Underlord- Movement speed reduced from 305 to 290
- Atrophy Aura Damage Reduction from 10/20/30/40% to 4/16/28/40%
- Level 15 Talent from +200 Health to +35 Movement Speed
- Level 20 Talent from +100 Cast Range to +125
- Level 20 Talent from +50 Attack Speed to +60
Another popular hero in this patch, Underlord holds the second highest winrate in the 5k+ MMR bracket. Much like Treant, these nerfs address his early game strength, though just like Treant, it may not be enough. Pit of Malice and Firestorm are strong enough spells still.
Weaver- Base damage reduced by 2
- The Swarm damage from 20 to 14/16/18/20
- Level 25 Talent from +20% Magic Resistance to +25%
Weaver may not hold a top position in terms of winrate, but she’s become a top pick in competitive play (4th most contested hero in on-going DAC qualifiers). The Swarm has proven to be a valuable spell, possibly too valuable with even just 1 skill point in it. As a result, it has been nerfed appropriately.
Windranger- Powershot damage from 120/220/320/420 to 180/260/340/420
- Powershot cooldown from 9 to 12/11/10/9
- Windrun slow AoE from 300 to 325
- Windrun manacost from 100 to 75
- Level 10 Talent from +15 Damage to +25% Windrun Slow
- Level 15 Talent from +16 Intelligence to +20 Intelligence
- Level 15 Talent from +200 Health to +40 Movement Speed
- Level 20 Talent from +12% Magic Resistance to +20%
- Level 20 Talent from +12% Spell Amplification to +15%
- Level 25 Talent from -5s Powershot Cooldown to -6s
Just two weeks ago, we concluded that focusing on a new build could revitalize her and that . “that build may just be a patch [...] away from reality”. It may take longer than just a patch. These new talents and buffs certainly cement the idea of a different playstyle, a support, or non-core Windranger. The problem stays the same however, that the idea isn’t well supported by the talents. Additional Windrun Slow is definitely a support choice, but it also competed with +4 mana regen, which seems almost always better. A support Windranger wants to transition into physical damage at some point, but no talent supports such a transition, or even provides utility outside of a little bit more survival.
First again! What a relife.
Still no buff to visages birds. They are just as bad as 6.88.
2! bitch
well done
thanks for your hard work, love this site!
5th bitches
I kind of think the nerfs to DS are a little more significant than stated here. If a DS wants to play like a complete coward, throwing ion shells as soon as it comes off cooldown and letting it do the bulk of the work for farming, he can't anymore. 100 mana is removing an entire ion shell out of that timing. The bottom line is that DS is now required to be more active in the front line in order to get last hits, something that probably should happen for sure, but I think it really reduces the situations that DS will be useful.
All that being said, a shrine in the early game is enough to make up for the discrepancy, so if DS gets his soul ring and blue boots in a decent time he should be fine, but he will have to be a lot more proactive, making his laning stage a little more risky. An extra point in surge might be necessary, thus lowering the damage ion shell puts out OR putting off that value point in vacuum til later. The extra damage talent at lvl 10 comes a little late to be useful in the early laning stage when he needs it to farm, so I'm not sure that it will be worth getting when its utility will end with the end of the laning stage.
8th!!!
What the fuck are they doing to Windranger.
Lucan lost 1 Armour, but Wolves need no armour 🤔
Weaver is a he
Rip ember and treant :(
"Now, technically, both supports could purchase both an Observer Ward and a Sentry for 165 Gold each."
That won't f***ing happen in SEA Server!
Umji, you could be the one buying those wards.
As an avid Treant player, this is quite depressing as I think his nerf was the biggest of any. What is with this extra damage talent though? Encouraging Treant to go core?
BUGS GALORE
@umji
I am SEA player.
Sometimes I buy 1 obs and even 1 pair of sentry (at previous patch) at start of game.
Believe me, miracle is still exist, just pray with innocent heart.
The tacky replicate bonus damage certainly won't make any impact on the balled out Morphling.
Umji , maybe you play in a low bracket so that kind of thing happens.
I play in SEA server and my avg for spending my gold for wards is around 3k when i play support.
Well, you can be the one who buy those wards though, as 100gamesSuppor7 said.
lol ember nerf is huge XD
Let me break this down in the most efficient language on the planet: math.
Solar Crest stats - 12 armor / 75% mana regen / 25% evasion
If you were to buy every one of the stats on it with their most efficient counter parts you would get something like this ~
6 Ring of Protection (1050 gold) - 12 armor + 1.5 Sage's Mask (488 gold) - 75% mana regen + 1.25 Talisman of Evasion (1788 gold) - 25% evasion
The total stats you're buying comes out to 3326 gold for this item at the games most cost efficient. You're saving 701 gold, that technically should be a recipe, but isn't. And that's not even going into the subject of it having an active ability.
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To give a fair comparison, I'll do two of the most popular items on the market. Again it'll only be in stats that can be monetarily measured.
Helm of the Dominator - 4 all stats / 8 hp regen / 20 attack speed
1 Gloves of Haste (500 gold) - 20 attack speed + 4 Iron Branches (200 gold) - 4 all stats + 1.25 Ring of Health (1063 gold) - 8 hp regen = 1763 gold total which is 37 gold more expensive than its most cost efficient stat counterparts.
37 gold is what you pay for 1 dominated creep, 10 aura attack speed and 8 aura hp regen.
Dragon Lance - 13 agility / 12 strength
4 Gauntlets of Strength (600 gold) - 12 strength + 4.33 Slippers of Agility (650 gold) - 13 agility = 1250 gold total which is 650 gold more expensive than its most cost efficient stat counterparts.
650 gold is what you pay for 140 attack range and it goes into a Hurricane Pike.
Now keep in mind that Solar Crest is 701 gold less than it should be stat wise. That means not only are you NOT paying for the active effect, you're actually profiting 701 gold off of it.
I'd say its about time for this item to shine if you know what I mean. ;D
heads up, S&Y isn't linked in your items paragraph. Nice analysis.
@arctic seas
The terminoligy in the update says 'rather than', implying that the change is not an alternative method, but the new and only method, but I haven't tested it in client yet.
When will u buff arc warden?that hero becomes garbage after 7.00patch make aw a hero again lul
weaver is a she?
Pugde should be nerf for sake. He most annoying hero in early game. Dat hook omfg.
Cat cafe
Thanks for sharing. I'll remember that.
You guys misunderstood my statement. The sentence I quoted in my comment has " both supports" in it, which don't usually happen in SEA pubs especially in MMR games. I'm also exaggerating the time I making that comment.
Why no actual useful buff for arc. He got nerfed way too hard. This patch sucks. Doesn't fix any balance issues. Balance the game around average pub games. Stop with balancing around pro tourneys. If you want the game to increase in popularity make the majority of players happy aka pub players. Pros make up a very small % of the player base.
@CatCafe
I'm not sure I would call it profit because you still have to account for item timings and such, so if you stop to get this, you're putting off another item. However, calling the item efficient is definitely warranted.
I think it's kind of a great idea to grab at the very least a medallion on select carries these days. Get it on a PA and get that 7 armor reduction before going for the desolator. Honestly if you are trying for an early game strat that includes a deso, just get the medallion too, maybe bump it up to a solar crest. They're low cost and cost efficient items that can put you online fast.
I was clickbaited to this summary by the godly Tidehunter pic, disappointed he didn't get a mention. Couple of small but effective buffs to an already reasonably strong hero.
funny thing you didn't mention arc warden changes xd
Arc Warden:
* Level 10 Talent from +125 Health to +20 Flux DPS
* Level 15 Talent from +8 Strength to +200 Health
What do you think about it?
LVL 15 +200 Health or +30 Damage
LVL 10 +25 Attack Speed or +20 Flux DPS
I ussualy go for AS and dmg, but now 2x480 flux dmg and 2x280dmg from sparks from hero and his clone is really interesting (+normal attacks and maelstrom lightning)
OMG monkey king will melt on trees :D
btw. how much health gave 1 str to Arc? I mean is 200 health better than 8 str?
1 str = 20hp
thanks neko cafe. ill remember solar crest nxt time i play slardar pa or even weaver :) solar crest ds would probably be nice too on ds tank build 🤔
Windrunner isn't a caster. Stop trying to make it happen. Even if Power shot was on a 1 sec cd It does no fucking dmg late game.
Bring back her Mana regen, give Focus fire crit chance or increase the duration of windrun
Why is weavah a she?
The changes AW got are pointless. The increase to flux is useless since the spell can be muted so easily. The AS and dmg are always taken over the alternative. So even though the changes to him are buffs. They are never picked. Arc needs movement speed, armor or right click dmg increase to be viable. He is far too squishy.
FYI, Weaver is most definitely male, newebs.
With LD nerfs half of me is dead 😭😭
100 sentry ward is heaven for support players
love the summery well done
Just now i realize, weaver is a sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!,
holy shitttttttttttttttttttt.
What the hell is happening to DOTA 2, fix it volvo!!!!
admit it that youre wrong fuckkkkkkk
Valve hate almost all the female characters in DotA. For example Queen of pain not so popular and has a horrible win rate, she has a terrible late potential, so they are removed lifesteal from blademail and kill her definitively as a hero. Lina fixed a long time ago, that talents dont safe her. Death prophet in the ranking of most unpopular characters and a low win rate. Why you are fixed her third skill and give horrible talents? Luna weakened, Vengeful spirit and Crystal maiden... as they were supports and they will. What a hatred of women? Your players complexes arise when they are killed female characters?
Lc is a transgender too lol!
I wish that both supports are too good to be true but nahhhh. Its a dream in sea server since 1st 3 picks are mid off and safe, then 4th will be jungler... Real talk!
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