well I dont post the damage since its a pain to inform Cleave talent
but w/e here
1. Tidebringer [Kunkka] 100% Cleave damage (150% with talent)
2. Doom 100% Cleave damage
3/4. Great Cleave [Sven] 66% Cleave damage
3/4. Empower [Magnus] 50% Cleave damage [70% with talent]
5. Battle Fury [Item] 40% Cleave damage
6. Alchemist 30% Cleave damage
7. PA 20% Cleave damage
abaddon has an ulti that just lets him not die for 5 seconds and recover some hp
wraith kind has actual reincarnation
how is this fair???? buff abas ulti
But with borrow time u can turn on blademail and heal urself while doing the same amount of damage back. U can't really do that when u died as wraith king. Also, when wraith king died its very easy for the enemy team to just time a chain stun when he came back but with abaddon u can just run away while ult is active. They are 2 different abillity don't compare them like this.
abaddon has an ulti that just lets him not die for 5 seconds and recover some hp
wraith kind has actual reincarnationhow is this fair???? buff abas ulti
Nice argument there, Lets buff BH Shadow Walk to infinite duration since riki have its.
Nice argument there, Lets buff BH Shadow Walk to infinite duration since riki have its.
agree, didnt think about that
now that i think about it, whys rhastas hex so much worse than lions hex at all levels? buff immediately!
well, this wasnt a problem when sven was the best carry in the game. it hardly matters (or not at all) when farming anyway, which is the main purpose of cleave.
Ya Bro why is pudge hook not same distance as Mirana arrow. Buff pudge. More arcanas!!
if i was a sven maniac and wanted to whine for buffs buffing cleave would be the last thing on my list
I mean i love sven but out of all his levels the problem is not his cleave or any of his other levels to be exact
1, some of Sven's talents needs to be changed like stun cd decrease on 25 u kidding? How about storm hammer teleports u to the target or sth?
2,his movement speed is just to underwhelming speed talent S&Y+ madness and he's still slow
3,although this hero is weak early his also weak at very end due to his underwhelming MS again he also needs lots of farm too
I love sven,he can carry hardest in game.No escape,ulti behind trees blink stun multiple heroes cleave them with crit and team can finish them off.His cleave is good i agree any other buff would be nice.
Considering the other's cleave, this sven cleave was reallu underwhelming my brother. How people didnt see that till now?
Just take a lot, example ranged cleave (medusa split shot, gyro, drow aghanim) really outpowering sven because their cleave was ranged and both deals 80%damage (medusa) and 100% (gyro drow)..and sven was melee n only 65%
cleave damages regardless of armor value with means pure unless their ghosted
He's not talking about how weak Sven is or how underwhelming Greater Cleave is. It's that a spell named "Greater Cleave" covers less area than fucking Battle Fury. How would it feel if Mana Break burned less mana than Diffusal? Or Mana Shield had less magic resistance than hood? Or if phantasm illusions did less damage than manta illusions? Or if shadow walk lasted for less and had more cooldown than Shadow Blade?
well its almost just a rant thread.
its bug me when Great Cleave give less Aoe than Battlefury
If anything i want to buff sven is tweak his kits.
Give Great cleave active component or something like benefit from GS
Or something thats will make him more interesting to play will be great
For example
OffTP. @druex even its just a short encounter,you sure got a nice personality there. I hope you have a good life
Why are there like 4 assassins in the game, but the hero that gets assassinate is a dwarf who hunts mountain birds?
So what if the aoe is the smallest, it has the largest dmg of any cleave that's why it's called that
The fuck?
why is undying called undying when there are heros that actually come back drom the dead but undying cant do it?
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Currently We only have 5 type of cleave and Sven cleave is second worst... [Great Cleave my ass]
1 . Tidebringer [Kunkka] Starting Radius: 150 Distance: 650/800/950/1100 End Radius: 500/550/600/650
2 . Battle Fury [Item] Battle Fury icon.png Starting Radius: 150 Distance: 625 End Radius: 330
3 . Cleave from Talent [Doom,PA,Alchemist] Starting Radius: 150 Distance: 625 End Radius: 330
4 . Great Cleave [Sven] Starting Radius: 150 Distance: 570 End Radius: 300
5 . Magnus - Empower Starting Radius: 150 Distance: 460 End Radius: 240
Magnus got the worst cleave radius but well he can give its to entire team so its ok
buff its atleast the same as BattleFury or better ffs
btw. Tiny Tree grab is not Cleave mechanic
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