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General DiscussionPlease never host a TI in China again

Please never host a TI in China again in General Discussion
'96 Neve Campbell

    Worst time zones
    Worst crowds
    Embarrassing
    Watching the crowd after OG won was one of the most disgusting things I have ever seen in a ‘sports’ event. Never seen such a boring lukewarm response in my life. Maybe it would be wise if Valve could host an INTERNATIONAL in a country which isnt homogeneous and xenophobic.

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    LegendaryHD

      Yeah I can see that not so much hype.

      Aimstrong

        racist

        TripleSteal-

          classic ching chong

          xDeprived

            Ching Chong 🤮🤢

            LegendaryHD

              DON'T SAY THAT OR CHINESE DUDES WILL BOO YOU!

              Peko

                yeah and they always hack in csgo, dumb chinaers

                Bap

                  ti 20 in germany pls

                  wait for me

                    Amazing TI, horrible crowd. Even in my country Bangladesh, we'd have better crowd than this

                    AnŦaiN

                      Even Pakistan has better crowd than china ^^^

                      Mortal

                        What did you expect about a communist country? Come on...

                        twitch.tv/afeect

                          Time zone was much better than before.

                          ETd

                            I enjoyed being able to watch at my own timezone, but I’d gladly trade night hours for a better crowd. As long as we retain the level of Dota, because the level of this year’s games was the best of all time

                            banana man

                              The crowd was silent with OG won lol
                              but it was very hard for me to watch live.
                              The grand finals were boring but that doesn't have anything to with it being in China, but please don't host it in China again, whenever LGD got knocked out the majority, Chinese crowd, stopped caring.

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                              Pale Mannie

                                imagine still believing that china is communist

                                KUKULAMIN KA BUT THE K IS...

                                  Time zone was aite

                                  '96 Neve Campbell

                                    The time zone was garbage. Way too early in the day for anyone with a functioning life. Middle of the night in Americas, small hours of the morning in Europe. Only people who could watch it easily were East Asians.

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                                    kowareta

                                      yeah, our center of the world parma-chan who borned in uk where english resides and have pure european blood with white skin couldnt watch the games
                                      sry, but the players had the priority over u

                                      '96 Neve Campbell

                                        Fuck are you talking about? This hasnt got to do with the players its the location. Im not saying the players should have played at some stupid time of day I am saying they should have played in a different country which isnt 12 hours ahead of everyone else and doesnt have one dimensional racist crowds.

                                        ywn

                                          why do u guys care so much about the crowd lmao

                                          kowareta

                                            only racist person here is you :)
                                            chinese ppl had these problems too in last TIs, but well they dont have functioning life, white skin, european blood, unlike u. PepeLaugh

                                            why even we count china as country? only country in world is UK.

                                            u must be so proud of it. your father did the job in free(!!!) country, now everybody who is borned some where else is one dimensional.

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                                            Yami Yugi

                                              only racist person here is you :)

                                              Oh I'd like to see you Write non Chinese letter on your store in China, it must be the most non racist country ever

                                              '96 Neve Campbell

                                                nly racist person here is you :)
                                                chinese ppl had these problems too in last TIs, but well they dont have functioning life, white skin, european blood, unlike u. PepeLaugh

                                                why even we count china as country? only country in world is UK.

                                                u must be so proud of it. your father did the job in free(!!!) country, now everybody who is borned some where else is one dimensional

                                                U are actually a spastic please stop commenting here

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                                                Kouichi Hayami

                                                  They actually cheered after OG won the game

                                                  '96 Neve Campbell

                                                    They didnt

                                                    LegendaryHD

                                                      They actually cheered after OG won the game

                                                      They did a little bit cheered for them but it's because they have no choice there are no Chinese team left.

                                                      Kouichi Hayami

                                                        They respected the final game and they also cheered for the amazing performance of OG. Chinese admitted they hate OG due to the chat wheel. However, they never denied OG was not worthy for this champion.
                                                        https://b23.tv/av65346214
                                                        https://b23.tv/av65365264
                                                        These two videos are responses of Chinese.

                                                        Yami Yugi

                                                          These two videos are responses of Chinese.

                                                          Respect

                                                          one syllable anglo-saxon

                                                            why do u guys care so much about the crowd lmao

                                                            the yellow people are strange and scary, have weird culture and make funny noises with their mouths when they speak

                                                            also their government kinda sucks and is challenging euros & amerikkkan govts for the title of the world villains, and it's the fault of the chinese people of course, because they are just genetically predisposed to this weird oriental nationalism, total obedience and the spirit of chinese exceptionalism, look it up, it's science

                                                            i swear it's about the crowds though, i am not doing a racism i just want to have some good crowds in my dota games is it that much to ask? :)

                                                            Altaire

                                                              Yeah yeah, and in every previous TI iteration we wake up (or stay awake and didn't sleep at all) at 2 am just for watching dota AND have functioning live later. I agree the crowd isn't as hyped as, say, Manila Major, but come on. Time zone, really?

                                                              Jack__Attack

                                                                Time zone was great being able to.watch at night is ideal for.me

                                                                boring personality

                                                                  American, British and SEA crowds cheer the most for both teams(with the exception of Americans chanting USA, USA), however the Chinese crowd literally booed some teams. Very unprofessional and unsportsmanlike

                                                                  LucaManny

                                                                    The most retarded complain about TI i've ever seen is time zone lmao.
                                                                    We Asian need to stay late at night for 8 TI straight (and sport event for example : football) and guess what? we never fucking complain about it.
                                                                    Yeah sure you european and american is the only people of this world ok. Complain about time zone in INTERNATIONAL event lmao

                                                                    only racist person here is you :)
                                                                    chinese ppl had these problems too in last TIs, but well they dont have functioning life, white skin, european blood, unlike u. PepeLaugh

                                                                    why even we count china as country? only country in world is UK.

                                                                    u must be so proud of it. your father did the job in free(!!!) country, now everybody who is borned some where else is one dimensional.

                                                                    have to admit i agree with this iranian boy

                                                                    LegendaryHD

                                                                      The most retarded complain about TI i've ever seen is time zone lmao.
                                                                      We Asian need to stay late at night for 8 TI straight (and sport event for example : football) and guess what? we never fucking complain about it.
                                                                      Yeah sure you european and american is the only people of this world ok. Complain about time zone in INTERNATIONAL event lmao

                                                                      only racist person here is you :)
                                                                      chinese ppl had these problems too in last TIs, but well they dont have functioning life, white skin, european blood, unlike u. PepeLaugh
                                                                      why even we count china as country? only country in world is UK.

                                                                      u must be so proud of it. your father did the job in free(!!!) country, now everybody who is borned some where else is one dimensional.

                                                                      have to admit i agree with this iranian boy


                                                                      For me the only thing I hate about them is only their behavior nothing else, and yes I agreed with Desephviasco.

                                                                      Kotato

                                                                        watching TI like a man-toddler, you people have nothing to do with you life but you will regret wasted time once you are as old as me. my advice: postpone playing video games for after 60 when you are settled with the pension and cant do much physically (i mean banging girls)

                                                                        Feachairu

                                                                          https://youtu.be/_r9SwtegYxo?t=81
                                                                          if u see dis,one chinese guy trying to cheer team liquid but got ppl stopping him from all sides lmao

                                                                          but after lgd loses they cheer both teams i think

                                                                          kowareta

                                                                            U are actually a spastic please stop commenting here

                                                                            or probably
                                                                            please dont say facts and dont reveal my true racist face in here
                                                                            :axe_laugh:

                                                                            kowareta

                                                                              if u see dis,one chinese guy trying to cheer team liquid but got ppl stopping him from all sides lmao

                                                                              well i wasnt there and im not sure about it, but some dude said this about it
                                                                              All the banner are not allowed, they had LGD and OG banners taken down too

                                                                              DSP

                                                                                china = a lot of money to make so they don't really care about the crowd.

                                                                                Also you're IP is now on the Chinese secret services lists

                                                                                '96 Neve Campbell

                                                                                  How does saying the crowd is bad make me a racist? Are you people apes or what? I couldnt give a shit who is in that crowd the fact is that it was a shit crowd. The racists here are the people who were in that crowd and would only support teams who were the same race they are. That is racism. Saying the crowd was shit (fact) is not racist, its a fucking fact. Grow up people! You can see for yourself how shit the crowd was from the 2 videos that guy linked. First video the crowd is completely pathetic, you can hear individual claps and the response when they life the aegis is actually a joke, and wtf in the second video the crowd almost seem completely scripted like they are at a bethesda e3 conference. Completely xenophobic crowd, really sad.

                                                                                  kowareta

                                                                                    Are you people apes or what?

                                                                                    yes , we are. sadly our fathers didnt do the job in UK.
                                                                                    That is racism

                                                                                    :axe_laugh:
                                                                                    plz go write down your scientific conclusion here.

                                                                                    liking your own country is racist nowadays =))
                                                                                    i love my family, am i racist too?
                                                                                    if my brother compete with some one else, i take my brother side, im so fucking racist.
                                                                                    PepeLaugh

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                                                                                    '96 Neve Campbell

                                                                                      PepeLaugh

                                                                                      Did you read that article. It starts off by saying;

                                                                                      Racism is the belief in the superiority of one race over another. It may also include prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against other people because they are of a different race or ethnicity, or the belief that members of different races or ethnicities should be treated differently.

                                                                                      So remind me again how the Chinese crowd wasn't racist for booing teams that weren't Chinese and showing a very lukewarm response to OG winning the International when the crowd probably would have gone absolutely insane if LGD had won. This isn't a football game where people support their nation's team this is Dota where you cheer for the players that earn it.

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                                                                                      kowareta

                                                                                        nice one :)
                                                                                        i cant expect any more than this from u
                                                                                        the center of the world with functioning life, white skin and honorable job ( =)))))) )

                                                                                        our superior parma-chan from UK

                                                                                        kowareta

                                                                                          This isn't a football game where people support their nation's team this is Dota where you cheer for the players that earn it.

                                                                                          oh, so u are in charge of this world now and decide for chinese ppl whether this game is like football or not!
                                                                                          cool :)

                                                                                          '96 Neve Campbell

                                                                                            nice one :)
                                                                                            i cant expect any more than this from u
                                                                                            the center of the world with functioning life, white skin and honorable job ( =)))))) )

                                                                                            our superior parma-chan from UK

                                                                                            You sound like you have quite the chip on your shoulder there friend. If you hate your country so much maybe you should work harder in order to pay your way out instead of wasting time making a fool of yourself on a dota forum all day.

                                                                                            oh, so u are in charge of this world now and decide for chinese ppl whether this game is like football or not!
                                                                                            cool :)

                                                                                            No. I am just speaking the truth.

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                                                                                            kowareta

                                                                                              i dont need to work hard (like u =)))) ) to pay my way out, i can just simply apply for top uni on US like all my close friends, who are apes from Iran, did already :))))))
                                                                                              any way i dont know why u drag discussions to nowhere ( i know why , like everybody else tho but im pretending to not)

                                                                                              keep speaking from the truth tho, u are the decider for chinese ppl
                                                                                              they cant decide for themselves whether this game is more like soccer or not.
                                                                                              yeah u can blame them for taking dota so serious and acting like this is a game about nations, nobody would argue that
                                                                                              but saying "they are racist" well, i dont know what to say anymore :)

                                                                                              '96 Neve Campbell

                                                                                                Actually lets retrace this slightly cause what has any of this got to do with the fact that the crowd were biased and shitty. Whether or not they were racist isnt even relevant actually the point is that 95% of the crowd were biased towards chinese teams and there is no other country in the world where you could host the international and have such a biased crowd. The FACT is that China is essentially a homogeneous society and is difficult for people to travel too and is therefore unfit to host multi-cultural international tournaments.

                                                                                                It wouldnt be a kurwareta argument without fucking DERAILING the thread entirely and talking about random shit.

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                                                                                                kowareta

                                                                                                  Derailing the thread, hilarious!
                                                                                                  look parma, all the things i've said is related to your subject and your comments, stop acting like stupids rofl.
                                                                                                  only person who talking about my country , my real life, my success and failures , talking about unrelated things to subject and comments is you.
                                                                                                  but well, sry, i came in to your safe zone (dotabuff) and tried to reveal your racist face among your friends who cheering you up when u calling others ape, following u when u act like child and copy-paste in threads.

                                                                                                  yeah thats all my fault. at the end of the day, who even cares if u are racist or not? what would that change? u are not gonna be next UK president! u missing the point.
                                                                                                  u think im keep saying this stuff cause im competing you in who is wrong and who is right. who is dumb and who is dumber! but my whole purpose is sth else.
                                                                                                  yeah, i can say u are true, chinese are racist, chinese are one dimensional, or whatever.
                                                                                                  am i argue every body who sounds racist on internet or on this forum so i win the arguments against him/her? nO.
                                                                                                  i did that cause i wanted you change your self, i thought u are a nice person deep inside,
                                                                                                  maybe u are, maybe u arent im not going to crae about it anymore.

                                                                                                  '96 Neve Campbell

                                                                                                    What the fuck are you even saying? Is that a statement? An argument? What?!

                                                                                                    Aimstrong

                                                                                                      he just cares to let us all know that he doesnt care

                                                                                                      one syllable anglo-saxon

                                                                                                        it's only racism if it's an overt, unequivocal statement about how i despise a certain people and consider them inferior, irregardless of any surrounding context, anything short of that is a spook

                                                                                                        unless i'm chinese and cheer my fav dota team, [OBVIOUSLY A WHOLLY DISTINCT CONCEPT FROM FOOTBALL TEAMS DESPITE BEING EFFECTIVELY THE SAME THING], then it just confirms my racist biases hammered into my head from childhood by an authoritarian govt - a stark contrast to liberal (liberal means free btw ;) ) western govts who just gently suggest ideas and let your 6yo head figure it out by yourself :)