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General DiscussionHello mid player

Hello mid player in General Discussion
kuci

    I have some questions on ember spirit
    1. Do you buy bottle? If yes in what condition(s)?
    2. Do you play the aggressive style or farming style? What is your consideration?
    3. Based on question 2 what's your first item of choice?

    Assuming midlane are equal match-up, safelane won but offlane lost, and no random grieving. Tl;dr how to win in 50-50 game as ember.

    venz(xddx)

      question number 1 is very obvious>? If you are mid ember u always buy bottle

      venz(xddx)

        2. aggresive without dying . Phase Boots Drum Maelstrom Eul(optional) then aghs then do watever u like net\xt

        Liquidsnake

          1. if you r having a good time in the lane why not, but if you r not having a good time u'll spend most of the time stayin in lane defendin tower so u wont me able to roam and pick up runes. if you are being very aggressive ganking lanes and defendin tower at the same time, u definitely need bottle.
          2. this patch is not good for 20 - 30 min AFK ember, u shud be exploitin your bottle and supps, ganking and killin with them. and farmin only when enemy is out of MAP.
          3. phase boots, bottle, drums and mael go for wraith band if u want.
          there is no 50/50 ember,,, its either you aggressive or the enemy... you are not underlord or some afk hero

          mute all

            buy bottle no matter what lane you got..

            kuci

              Yeah this thread is a response to topson performance on https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/4864333508

              He play super aggressive, would like to know y'all opinion about this

              venz(xddx)

                you cant do that every game. he had to do that because he was making space for Ana and Ceb. Ana and Ceb were split pushing the whole map. I watched that game live and it sucks to be an EG fan because OG had the perfect execution of that game bringing it up to late.

                venz(xddx)

                  If you watched that game live you would see that Topson wasn't in the top networth or something . He actually gets picked off by EG most of the time because he was creating space the whole time

                  kuci

                    Would you do it on pub tho? I mean relying on your pos 1 and making that much space sacrificing your own farm?

                    kuci

                      This post give me anxiety please help

                      smurfs = no balls

                        its a damn team game, u cant expect to 1v9 in dota so yes, create space for your pos1

                        smurfs = no balls

                          thats how the game works, positions mean farm priority and 1 has higher priority than u so u have to create space for him :)

                          ...fuking mid players...

                          kuci

                            It's not the context of this post but okay bro

                            kuci

                              Please refer to my 3 question and ignore my later rants thanks :D

                              LucaManny

                                1. You buy bottle everygame ofc, ur mana is low for that much spell. Also u can easily refill it at fountain by remnant + tp, it also make regeneration at fountain faster so u can take that round 2 fight faster.

                                2. You play farming style if u want to lose

                                3. Bottle + Phase boots + wand/wb (optional) + drum (optional) + maelstorm + some defensive item (eul/linken/lotus/bkb) + agha then i like octarine for last item. U can get agha before defensive item if u owning and people cant deal with you by only their skill

                                LucaManny

                                  I think the way to play ember at mid + late is just fist + chain people non stop while hoping ur team deal damage to it and then go remnant the fleeing prey

                                  venz(xddx)

                                    always max sleight of fist and deal damage to enemy and try to watch ember replays or highlights so you will have an idea on how to play the hero better. If you really wanna win with ember you should not lose your minute 1 up to minute 10 of the game or else you will be a feeding machine to ur enemies

                                    NoEunhaNoLife- 

                                      Ember Is Relly good right now 5winsstreak 4 ember

                                      ur parents r siblings

                                        How can u lane as an ember wothout bottle?

                                        quest to questing

                                          i always buy bottle

                                          i always play aggressively

                                          always get maelstrom first item after phase+bottle

                                          this hero thrives off fighting, he has decent farm potential with flame guard but if you wanna just go afk farm y pick ember? the only times you avoid fighting are when you're reaching a power spike, like 200g away from maelstrom, 500g away from aghs and etc, then u farm

                                          Yami Yugi

                                            Can't agree more with the stars above, all of the comment were so true that I hope ALL mid players (even supports) read this.

                                            if you wanna just go afk farm y pick ember?